To blame Tory/Brexit voters for this shitshow

[Kendodd]

They "knew what they voted for".

YANBU.

Im in Scotland and incredibly bitter that a conservative government are in power despite the Scottish electorate not voting for them, and also because of Brexit. We didn’t want this.

The pandemic has of course had a huge impact but we were heading for a huge crisis anyway, even without it

We had a democratic vote so I'm not allowed to observe that Brexit's a total shitshow? What?!

Maybe because 12 years of Tory Govt have brought us austerity, food banks rises in child poverty, record NHS waiting lists, corruption in No 10, the mismanagement of a pandemic that resulted in over 200,000 deaths, with pensioners unlawfully discharged from hospitals into care homes, ( I won't mention Brexit) and just in the last 6 days tax breaks for the highest 1% of the population funded by borrowing, cuts to Corporation Tax which is already the lowest in Europe, the crash of the pound, the Bank of England bailing out the pension guilds & interest rates at 6% by Christmas!

Are you telling me people will still vote Conservative because the Labour supporters have been mean to us!
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What the actual fuck!!!!*

I think it was the COVID pandemic not Brexit that has caused inflation and economic meltdown. They locked up the healthy population on and off for two years, printing vast sums of money !! What did people think was going to happen ?

The Brexit supporters wanted deregulation, they wanted to be able to trash the economy on purpose, they wanted disaster capitalism!

That's what bloody Brexit was about!

The EU protected workers rights food standards, farmers, kept food prices low!

All that is either gone or on it's way out!

I voted for Brexit and voted Conservative at the previous 2 elections.

You can put it all on me if you like, I don't mind

Is this when I get burnt as a Heretic?

Absolutely... hope the selfish cnts got what they wanted.

Scotland did vote for this. As it is part of the UK. If Scotland had voted for independence in 2014 it would be a different story.

No not all but maybe give a thought for those people likely to lose their homes in the next 12 months?
Or the kids going to school pretending to eat out an empty lunch box so they don't feel out of place or even worse eating rubbers because they are so hungry.
I'm sure that wasn't what you thought you were voting for when you put your ✅ in the box!

The whole point of democracy is that votes CAN be overturned, not at an individual's will, but through repeated votes at intervals! We have to have general elections at least every five years; not 'This party was voted in, so that's it for all time; we can never change it'. And yes, the same is true of referenda in countries that have them, or Swiss women wouldn' t have the vote even now.

I know it can't be over turned & I know we can't go back because we will never be given the concessions we had if we rejoin like not being part of the Euro, power of veto over lots of stuff.

But what we need to be doing is making the best of it, do you think that's what happening now because I don't!

yabu. There is a group of about 180 people responsible for this, and they know who they are.

You think I didn't when I voted?

I've been alive long enough to know that all that has happened under EVERY Government, Labour as well.

I've lived through them all. I know. I've been voting since 1976.

Piers Corbyn is a grade A tosser but he hasn't been an MP to my knowledge. His brother isn't responsible for him either.

Yep, get over it, don't waste time worrying about something you can't change (from a remain and non-Tory voter)

@JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon if you read their comment properly they said 'no one thought there would NOT be pain and a long adjustment'

Of course Brexit isn't to blame for everything that has happened but it certainly damaged the economy at a time when it was difficult to overcome. Brexit has been hugely detrimental to the country - unless we face that I don't see how we can move on. And as for it being "democratic" 😂Thousands of voters disenfranchised, a referendum question that was open to different interpretations, an "advisory" referendum that suddenly became binding? That's not actually democracy.

This is such a strange way of deciding who to vote for; I see similar expressed here frequently but find it so odd that some people really think like this. By this I mean that they would decide who to vote for based on what other people - even strangers on the internet! - had said about what "type" of people generally vote for each party or issue and whether that was a good idea in previous cases now; and whether said stranger had been rude in expressing that opinion.

Why would such a thing be relevant? Surely people cast their votes based on the manifestos of each party and their own analysis and research of what the likely effects of that manifesto as a whole would be on a) their own family and b) the country as a whole.

Or are some people really so irrational that they vote purely based on how they feel - including what a rude stranger on the internet said to them sometime - rather than any objective assessment?

I find it bizarre, but I suppose it would explain a lot of the mess we find ourselves in.

The previous referendum on the topic said the opposite but that was overturned.

Do you understand how democracy works? You don't just have one election/ vote and then keep that outcome/ Government for all time.

Until we have a grownup in charge who at least mitigates the most significant damage of Brexit and rejoins the single market. People are still "going on about it" because we are still suffering the huge negative effects of it on our economy and on GBP.

The majority agree with you. The majority of the country agree with you.

I think proud Brexit Tory voters should proudly put a proud bullseye on their foreheads so that we can tell them what we think when the riots start.

https://www.ft.com/content/e6884fa0-5897-44e7-a990-354ac743571aa_

You also don't have one vote and ignore it and have another vote. Labour win an election, they get into government. If the Tories win a vote later on, they then get into government. If the government had simply ignored the results of the Brexit vote, after printing their own literature clearly stating that the result would be implemented, it would have terminally damaged any faith in democracy in this country.

If people want to rejoin, they need to start a rejoin party and try to win election. I really don't think there is any appetite to join the EU at the moment.

Exactly, this was always coming after covid