To blame Tory/Brexit voters for this shitshow

[Kendodd]

They "knew what they voted for".

All this why Brexit bullshit. It's hardly helped or helping matters is it

Are you really that fuck stupid???,,????

Corbyn and his bonkers brother are never going to be given a chance to run the country, so the point is irrelevant. But Truss and Kwarteng have already brought us pretty close to economic meltdown in three WEEKS; the thought of what they'd do in one year, let alone five, makes my blood run cold!

And the Op is one of the most prolific brexit posters ,it's bloody tedious

If they brought something new to the discussion it would help.
And the threads never become lively because anyone that voted brexit knows full well to keep out of the threads.

Oh - it's you again Ken. Yes dear, it's all Brexit's fault and the 'lied to' people that voted for it and nothing else in the World has happened since the Referendum in 2016.

Do your Carers/Institution know you're out and about at the mo - shall I call someone for you?

It's all Truss's fault according to my Brexit and Tory voting dear old dad who has was at his best deluded and now comes out with shit that literally makes you spit your coffee out over your keyboard.
Elizabeth would have given her far more gravitas on the world stage. Liz is fine for friends and family but not for a leader.
It's clearly not in the Tories' interests to stop crazy old people from voting but, fuck me, someone's got to.

And the threads never become lively because anyone that voted brexit knows full well to keep out of the threads.

That’s true, but then I suppose on AIBU there’s a chance there’ll be some posters who disagree which will give Ken and co from the Brexit topic the opportunity to insult them.

I have relatives living in Germany. They too are facing higher food prices and rising fuel prices, plus they may have fuel rationing this winter.

What does Brexit have to do with it?

Are you kidding? It has everything to do with it! Brexit has opened the door to low tax and low regulation (workers rights, breaches of environmental and food standards) etc.

If you reject the broadly Christian, liberal, democratic values of the EU, what are you going to replace it with? It’s obvious if you reject collective cooperation then individualism is the way things are going to go.

Everyone criticised the “sluggish” EU economy but look at it another way, the EU economy is stable, not volatile like today’s uk shit show where the most vulnerable are exposed to the effects of unstable economics.

There’s no doubt about it, this is an economic gamble of the highest order. And if the UK had adopted the Euro, KK would not have been allowed to play with sterling as he is doing now, as it would have been a breach of the compliance criteria.

Th only this gamble could pay off is if we see growth; which is very unlikely given Covid, the war in Ukraine & raised fuel prices and massive gaps in the workforce!

How do we get out of a period where we spent too much and borrowed too much by borrowing more? This could provoke a run on sterling. It’s totally irresponsible.

My post very clearly says (and you should know this as you quoted it) "no one thought there would not be a long period of pain and adjustment". You misquoted me by leaving out the critical word NOT.

Good day, sir: argue with yourself, but please leave me out of it.

I live in Germany. This is total tosh concocted by the British media. Our gas supply for heating is guaranteed for the winter at a bill of ca. €140 per month. The country has sufficient gas reserves to get through the entire winter with no russian pipelines in operation - even if it's colder than average. Ignore what you read in certain factions of the UK press

If it’s tosh, it’s not just the British media whipping up a storm…

www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2022-09-26/lights-out-ovens-off-europe-preps-for-winter-energy-crisis

German industry is seriously concerned about energy security this winter, at least in the sectors I work with.

Or poor opposition ? You could blame it on many many things that doesn't change anything though does it

Absolutely and a very slippery slope from then on.

‘We’ made our choices.

They were warned that the economy would turn to shit, and it has. It's just a shame we all have to pay for it.

They're also the same people who are complaining that all of the money should be going to them.

I am told that Conservative members like Truss because she was the only source of "good news" about Brexit because she kept announcing "new" trade deals when everything else about Brexit was bad news.

I agree that Brexit set this shit show in motion - there was a purge of any remainer ministers that resulted in many of the most experienced & capable being sidelined in favour of many buffoons. Pretty much only the mediocre & dross was left and here we are🤷🏼‍♀️. Just own the f@cking farce🙄.

You can blame whoever you want, but if you want to get rid of the Tories at the next election, it's people who voted for them who you need to vote Labour next time. If you abuse those people, hate them, want to punish them, then why would they vote differently to last time? You should be more forgiving and welcoming to Tories/Brexiteers and they might be open to changing their minds.

Well, I hope you're happy. Britain's a shitshow.

There seems to be an awful lot of mumsnetters that don't seem to comprehend that brexit was a democratic vote. It can't be overturned. Do a little research and look into how many other countries are not happy in the EU.
You may be surprised 😮
Many migrant workers actually went home as covid hit, not because of brexit

This country does seem to have been in a downward spiral since we started listening to people like Daniel Hannan.

How long are people going to keep going on about Brexit for? It's getting to the point of being counterproductive. Not everything bad is because of Brexit. Countries around the world, both in the EU and out are having problems. Covid and the war in Ukraine are far more to blame than Brexit.

@PeekabooAtTheZoo

I couldn't agree more

Short memory OP let’s add a few more things:
I blame Tony Blair for not capping New EU country immigration so slowly let people mix
i blame the unions for choosing the wrong Milliband bro
i blame Corbyn voters
etc…..