To think this is why spaces should be kept single sex?

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This poor girl.

I've got three DDs I can't imagine how I'd be if this had happened to one of them.

Primark staff were helpful but say it's happened previously.

No shit, predators are of course going to prey on easy access semi clothed women.

We need to rise and revolt.

Sorry, Waveyhair, I just saw your correction!

glad we are in agreement

A male is pretty easy to spot even im.a.dress. the profile pics are usually heavily filtered in person its obvious. You even spotted one yourself by the hands.

We just need companies to enforce the single sex exemption which is perfectly legal.

If transwomen are excluded from "Women's Spaces", then where do the transmen go? Obviously, they must use "Women's Spaces" because they are women. Surely it is easy for a cis man who wants to molest women to try and pass as a Transman.

Quite. But if you don’t have one, you can’t abuse (with) it. I can’t see many men going through that just to access female spaces, and there could be a certain amount if psychological assessment to protect women built into the procedure. True transwomen would surely understand womens issues and be all for protecting women, won’t they? And there are SO many other opportunities to abuse women without having your dick cut off. It won’t deter transwomen, but it would deter abusers.

At the end of the video the transwoman said that trans people should just enter the toilet they physically mostly align to.

Who put him in charge? All that had to be said to the person in the men’s room is ‘I’m trans, I’m male’ the voice alone would have made it clear. Men would not be threatened by a man in a dress.

Cant see many?

How many is too many?

Whats an acceptable number of voyeurism offenses by " true transwomen" before we say no males?

Why do women have to validate males ?

Why can't a transwoman use the male space?

‘True trans women’ who understand womens issues and are all for protecting women’ can just order their dresses and their female underwear online and try it on at home, can’t they.? As they are all so meek and considerate, I expect they probably do that anyway.

which means that the men leering and lurking in the changing rooms are just MEN. So no need for the TRA to get involved (except possibly by arguing for womens spaces to be for biologically born women), as part of their consideration and empathy for women.

😂🤣🤣

im confused how to how my opinion is against safeguarding of women.

Actually, I think you know exactly what you're doing. The problem is, there are so many people who passionately argue that keeping men out of women's spaces doesn't protect women that even the....insincere people don't sound any loonier than the ones who really are mad, misogynistic and dumb enough to believe it.

Give her a minute, a day, a week, a month or even a year or so.

She’s clearly shocked and scared, her internal alarm system will still be clanging AND she had to remember to bow her head to the alter of inclusiveness of the correct while doing her absolute best. She reported low level behaviours which is so important cos if a paper trail can be left those who graduate to far worse acts are on less safe ground muttering about “her word against mine and my clean record”. She then did her absolute best to warn other women to be on their guard and to pair up at that shop DESPITE their political associations & beliefs (deeply held or used as a defence against heresy charges and all its shunning / stocks & rotten cabbage chucking).

It takes time for the internal alarm system to switch off. Longer still to be able to think. Get past all the “did I over react ?” self doubt / accusations. Even longer to be able to go over the event so dispassionately that you’re able to look at some parts of “right & proper thinking” that you’ve never questioned and start picking it apart to work out if you were just the unlucky exception to the “right & proper thinking “rule, or maybe you’ve been sold a pile of shit in the name of a wearethegoodies-ism, or anti-theyarethebaddies.

And big fat hug to whoever she is. Been there, done that, and it’s fucking awful trying to balance your self-preservation instincts all while also not being ostracised in the process.

In my opinion a transwoman who has the done the sexual reassignment surgery. Is less of a threat to a person entering with a penis.

The problem is many transwomen want society to simply accept them as women. So some don’t feel the need to have SAS due to the fact they are already seen as women by society already.

How do you determine whos had the surgery.

Should a man who no longer has his penis through accident or illness be considered a woman too? Whats the difference?

Giving up your penis doesn't mean giving up your strength and male behaviours?

I ask again woukd u want yaniv. A male who says they are a woman who's had Surgery but who also has a period fetish and talks to underage girls in the female changing room?

im confused how to how my opinion is against safeguarding of women. what I am saying is that simply having a same sex changing room isn’t enough if your aim to safe guard women.

You seem utterly confused about safeguarding. The purpose is to minimise and mitigate risk because we accept we cannot eliminate risk completely.

98 - 99% of sex offenders are male. This does not mean that the majority of men are sex offenders but that the majority of sex offenders are men and we cannot tell which ones are predatory just by looking at them. Prohibiting men from spaces where women may be in states of undress and therefore vulnerable is the most sensible safeguarding action.

When you normalise males entering female spaces no one feels able to challenge them but if you ban all men from female spaces then people are more likely to ask them what they are doing there. You claim a man dressed as a woman could pass unnoticed and yet you did notice when you encountered just such a thing so clearly the number of men who would get away with it is very small. By maintaining single sex spaces the risk of predators slipping through the net is not eliminated but it is significantly reduced.

Most car journeys do not end in an accident but we still wear seat belts. By your logic we wouldn't bother because the risk of an accident is low and therefore the risk of death or injury from not wearing one is low.

LetMeSpeak, if you don't think barring men from women's spaces will protect them, what do you think barring pests from stores will do? They can always wear a wig and come back in.

Why do you lock your front door if a determined burglar can always break a window?

If businesses wish to pander to the trans movement, they need to pay to upgrade to lockable doors. If they want the good PR of being "inclusive" (or rather, to avoid the bad PR they'd get from the vocal few for daring to stand up for women's safety and comfort), they need to pay the price.

This generation of young women is - sooner or later - going to rise up absolutely raging with fury about the harm done to them in the name of 'trans rights'.

And while they continue to try to brainwash women and girls that it is okay for men and boys to be in their safe space - this is why it can never be ok.

It should be a beautiful thing being inclusive. It shouldn’t be at the expense of another’s well-being.

And yet it always seems to be.

Trans women are not exclusively post-operative transsexuals. The vast majority of them do have dicks. Some don't even present as 'feminine'. It's impossible to tell the difference between a trans woman and a predatory male with a fetish (the group who are misappropriating trans rights to the detriment of both women and trans people).

Apparently, it's women's responsibility to protect such people.

I think people are not quite understanding that in some stores Primark are Unisex - we went to Bluewater and were told we could use either changing room and there were no signs for male or female, they were genuinely Unisex.

Some stores still have male or female signs but operate as unisex with no regulation and so it's not about whether you present as trans.

There have now been three incidents this year, the one in the OP from the Cambridge store and these others all from this year, and these are just the ones that made it to the national papers.

www.itv.com/news/london/2022-07-22/met-pc-who-filmed-woman-changing-and-made-indecent-images-of-child-walks-free
Southall Wandsworth March 30th 22

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-62616681
The Moor Sheffield 18th July 22

Still risks hidden cameras.

Regardless of gender identity or sex, people who shop in Primark have got problems to begin with. Charity shops are better than Primark

I doubt a real transwoman would shop in Primark, so they probably are all fetishists

Boycott Primark

#BoycottPrimark now trending on Twitter.

The TRAs are letting the poor woman off the hook because she openly supported inclusion, and are now demanding other Twitter users 'stop using her story as an excuse to be transphobic'.

The problem, it's naively being stated, is predatory men. What's not being said is that it's predatory men, incels and fetishists who are misappropriating that cause in the first place. It's a very peculiar form of doublethink.

It's impossible to tell the difference between a trans woman and a predatory male with a fetish (the group who are misappropriating trans rights to the detriment of both women and trans people).

Apparently, it's women's responsibility to protect such people.

It’s also apparently women’s responsibility to be able to tell the difference between a “genuine” transwoman and a predatory man.

Trans women are already boycotting Primark, the stuff is shite.