To think Truss’ government has lost the trust of people who voted Conservatives for the first time at the last general election?

[CurseOfBigness]

“Mr Cameron adds that a lot of people had put their trust in the Conservatives for the first time and Boris Johnson was right to say the job now was to cement that trust and govern for the whole country.” - www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2019-50755004/page/7

This stood out to me at the last general election victory. David Cameron recognised the vulnerability of the majority won by Boris. Truss’ government ought to be reminded and heed the warning.

Truss shows very little understanding of how important that trust is for uniting the whole country (hence the majority win by Boris, not her). Whole country means not just the privileged few who disproportionately benefit from her government’s economically unwise mini-budget (Pound sinks as investors question huge tax cuts).

Both Truss and Starmer have not been tested in a general election in their own right. At least they have something in common…

AIBU - To think Truss’ government has lost the trust of people who voted Conservatives for the first time at the last general election?

OP, are you quoting Biden as some sort of paragon of good economic sense? Is US inflation suddenly under control?

Sounds like Liz Truss and her rich chums have too much fortune for their own good. Who the hell is going to defend the people?

On another note. You know how Truss said she was prepared to make unpopular and difficult decisions?

Do think she’s prepared for something like a pandemic again? Would she make the unpopular and difficult decisions to allow something like that to spread like wildfire?!

"Do think she’s prepared for something like a pandemic again? "

I hope she is/we are because we are not in a position to borrow more.

He’s the President of the largest economy in the world. Unlike Truss, he has a lot of experience in government under his belt, having also been VP under the Obama administration. Inflation is relatively recent economics in Biden’s political career - at least he has experience under his belt to deal with issues.

Biden has put his wisdom on trickle down economics never working on record now (journalists weren’t lost on how it was likely a sideways swipe at Truss’ economic policy announcement in his country).

Biden has positioned himself to one day be the paragon of economics telling Truss and the UK… “I told you so”.

WTF does US inflation have to do with anything? Stop your ridiculous attempts at deflection and distraction @LK1972.

PM Truss's "mini" budget caused the pound to fall to lows not seen in 50 years.😵 Because we export so much that means that prices will rise worsening inflation here, in the UK.

But a weaker pound is good for exports. Are you sure that you understand how this works?

Are you not getting yourself mixed up between imports and exports?

Sorry, I meant to write we import so much @GetRichOrDieTrying.

@Florenz You are correct. The next Prime Minister will be a former Director of Public Prosecutions rather than a career politican.

Odd that the rest of us know that freezing energy bills is a Labour idea that the Tories stole. I fully accept that I’m a newshound but I don’t seem to be alone in knowing that.

Very true.

But you're forgetting that during summer recess when Johnson was holidaying on tax payers money and not doing anything even though he was caretaker PM, his deputy wasn't deputising and they were having a 7 week long new leadership campaign - The Tory's did nothing to after this issue.

But ...... Starmer who went to Majorca for his holiday with his family was constantly criticised by the media for not coming up with a plan as leader of the opposition.

Then they produced a costed plan a few days later.

It was - again and unsurprisingly critiqued for the cost to taxpayers.

So the solution to the opposition having a plan the government didn't was to take it and take the bits that make them look good and then re jog it to cost yen taxpayer over twice as much.

But you know ...... Corbyn, Kiers beer etc.

Do you honestly believe that a policy (trickle down) that has failed every time it's been tried internationally will suddenly work this time?

Sorry can someone explain why they feel this mini budget was bad

People believe all kinds of things. I met one a few days ago, who thinks that Boris is wonderful and was hard done by.

Personally I believe in unicorns and am going to spend another happy Sunday hunting them on the sunlit uplands.

It was wonderful. You just have to read about how Truss' funders made millions from it by betting on the pound crashing.

I think it’s a bit early to say whether Truss’ government has lost the trust of people as she has only really started exercising power. A government has to win the trust of people as she hasn’t had any time whatsoever to win anybody’s trust yet.

Labour have no credible policies whatsoever to win anybody’s trust.

The level of satire on here is fantastic at the moment. I must remember to include Labour have no policies in one of my posts.

I am genuinely 😯and 😥to learn that Labour’s stance on trans will stop people voting for them.

Impending poverty for hundreds of thousands is upon us and people are more worried about the (frankly) remote possibility of someone (they see as) the other sex out of public toilets.

I hope this is a mumsnet thing and not reflective of the real world.

People believe all kinds of things. I met one a few days ago, who thinks that Boris is wonderful and was hard done by.

Personally I believe in unicorns and am going to spend another happy Sunday hunting them on the sunlit uplands.

🤣🤣

I've also heard loads of people say Johnson was hard done by and his party betrayed him

Seems he's a professional victim as well as liar.

Labour had the energy company windfall tax policy months before it even became clear just how bad it'll be and also the freezing the cap policy whilst the Tory's didn't even have a leader.

Do you know where those policies went and why no one saw them or considered them.

Oh hang on a moment ..........

It’s a bit more than ‘trans’ though isn’t it. I don’t give a shit about how a bunch of blue-haired students describe themselves or who they shag.

What I very much DO give a shit about are children’s safeguarding and women’s rights that have come under very real threat from a pernicious gender ideology under the bloody Conservatives; and I would very much like Labour to commit to reversing the craziness.

Unfortunately Labour seem even crazier on this. So yes it’s a genuine worry. And yes it is happening in the real world because even my adult DC who isn’t on MN is very concerned about the ideological creep into children’s lives and knows a lot about it.

(I will never vote Conservative. Never have, never will.)

They can’t do this though because an SNP coalition will be seen as putting Labour over a barrel with respect to a further independence referendum. This would put those who don’t want Scottish independence off voting Labour. I don’t feel this way as an independence supporter but can recognise others will.

It’s not a great idea to agree a coalition before an election because you’re asking voters to be comfortable with the policies of both/all the parties in that coalition. If the Lib Dems had said they were going to form a coalition with the tories I would never have voted for them. Decisions on coalitions/ minority governments need to be made after the election.

Two of the policies will add £30 billion a year to borrowing for the next five years. At a time when borrowing costs are ramping up, as a nation we are going to have to fund £100 billion a year in interest alone. It is madness adding to that when the whole world enters a different economic era.

I agree with SpinningAlwaysSadly.

It's bad, real bad, but there are other issues at stake too.

@CurseOfBigness I don't think anyone would lockdown again unless it targets kids. Lockdown has caused so much economic pain for very little gain.

I couldn't and wouldn't vote labour even going back to his pledges which to me sound like the true person not the one who is trying to win votes, he wants to;

End universal credit the sole benefits of a conservative government which can be used to force people back into work.

Promote peace - which is a polite way of saying let's demilitarise so we can give that money away as hand outs....see above UC.

Abolish the House of Lords - you know the house that isn't influenced by politics trying to win points so acts as a sense check to government policy

Nothing in his policies ever seem to want to promote growth they just seem to defend is socialists ideology

The level of nativity here is also astounding!

And it’s only September