To think Truss’ government has lost the trust of people who voted Conservatives for the first time at the last general election?

[CurseOfBigness]

“Mr Cameron adds that a lot of people had put their trust in the Conservatives for the first time and Boris Johnson was right to say the job now was to cement that trust and govern for the whole country.” - www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2019-50755004/page/7

This stood out to me at the last general election victory. David Cameron recognised the vulnerability of the majority won by Boris. Truss’ government ought to be reminded and heed the warning.

Truss shows very little understanding of how important that trust is for uniting the whole country (hence the majority win by Boris, not her). Whole country means not just the privileged few who disproportionately benefit from her government’s economically unwise mini-budget (Pound sinks as investors question huge tax cuts).

Both Truss and Starmer have not been tested in a general election in their own right. At least they have something in common…

AIBU - To think Truss’ government has lost the trust of people who voted Conservatives for the first time at the last general election?

Stop dodging the question. You lied, you sir that the government was refusing to do anything to help, despite knowing that that was untrue.

Why? Why are you so keen to lie when caught out?

I’m too well read on suffragette history to not vote, even if the options aren’t great. Women had to go to insane lengths for the basic right to vote. And I vote out of respect and gratitude for what they did for the advancements of women.

Funny how Conservative voters are usually polite too, and don't have a go at Labour voters..

You mean they have a polite face to cover up any conservative judgements they may hold against people?
That’s good for keeping the peace and amicability. But it’s their actions beneath the surface that count. Labour bark but don’t bite; Conservatives don’t bark but they do bite.

Labour isn’t the only alternative. There are other options. Voting means you can at best hope for a hung parliament next time.

A coalition is the next best thing imo. There’s another layer of accountability and compromise involved.

^ @mamabear715

As a previous Tory voter and a middle class earner, truss has now lost my vote. If she wants to look after the very rich fine But they won't keep my vote, labour certainly won't gain it , I'm once again politically homeless. It's a shame the vocal voices and news only focus on the very rich or very poor, well it's about time those in the middle who get squeezed get a say too.

Are you saying that it is not true the cost of domestic heating and electricity has more than double in a year in the UK?

So jgw as I explained in my post, there is a hell of a lot going on for me at present and the only strong message is coming from Martin Lewis.
So..his delivery, when he talks he gets passionate, he's erudite, makes an impression.

He repeats and pushes his message across.
He comes across very well on radio, tv and he has an excellent Twitter presence as well.

Now you can attack me for pointing this out but this is true for me and my life.
Who laid out what in January??

Not a fucking clue as per my post.

Odd that the rest of us know that freezing energy bills is a Labour idea that the Tories stole. I fully accept that I’m a newshound but I don’t seem to be alone in knowing that.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/17263943/labour-pledges-cut-fuel-bills/

No, stop trying to change the subject, I am pointing out that you posted what you knew to be a lie.

Do you have the decency to admit that you did this, when you said the government was doing nothing?

I suspect not, typical bloody lefty. Thank for the good people of the U.K. can see you lot for what you are.

The government haven't done anything to stop the price of domestic fuel and electricity doubling in less than a year.
They have now introduced a scheme whereby they give businesses that are making billions of pounds in profit, billions of more pounds.

So much for Tory politeness. 🙄

We have all been hoodwinked by the energy costs : even my very conservative voting friends are a bit pissed off by this.

@ImNotGreta “What consequences are you thinking about? The main “consequence” for us so far has been this tax cut, which is quite welcome, and will spread the burden more fairly.”

Oh no. It’s you again. This time on my OP thread. Ugh.

To an extent I do understand the personal emotional feeling that the tax cut spreads the burden more fairly.
There’s also different pressures between ‘new money’ and ‘old money’. The former are still vulnerable in trying to build their financial security (so may welcome the tax cuts more than seeing the bigger picture). The latter is more comfortably established in financial security to afford taxes (and can value that sometimes financial security is also down to luck, such as starting out opportunities, inheritance etc).

But the point is that Truss is supposed to be acting as a PM. This means it is her government’s job to think bigger in terms of their economic policies. Trickle down economics don’t work (and the markets have shown so too. Plus she irresponsibly won’t publish the OBR report).

The GE manifesto was about levelling up and that helps the economy in the bigger picture and on more levels than one. Building “Bottom up and middle out” is the way forwards, as the US President has already said.

Is Truss (unelected as PM in a general election) acting on emotion or logic?

Martin Lewis would make a very good Prime Minister. I think the next great PM will come from outside traditional politics.

I think this is a knee jerk reaction , you need to wait to see if it stimulates the economy as she thinks. You can’t look at the immediate optics but the actual economic impact of her decisions.

But the point is that Truss is supposed to be acting as a PM. This means it is her government’s job to think bigger in terms of their economic policies

tell that to labour.

How long?

Labour has been out of power for 12 years. Haven’t you noticed?

How long?

50 years, apparently.

That is no reason why Labour shouldn’t have been streets ahead in the polls

they absolutely should have been Johnson was caught on the back foot again and again but they have so lacklustre in their responses

they don’t have the media but they have social media they have radio they have numerous political shows to get their message across how they would run the country better by doing xyz

Truss who has not won a general election as PM in her own right. She’s lacking a proper mandate. It raises questions about her credibility and integrity.

Didn’t she also cheat on her husband?

Character speak volumes.

Truss cannot be trusted.

I agree Martin Lewis is all over the show

tv, radio, social media platforms he speaks with confidence, with passion we feel it, he is erudite he is like a dog with a bone he doesn’t stop he gets that message across

the Labour leader and the shadow cabinet can do this but they are not. You may well post a link but I can’t not remember seeing much of Starmer or Raynor getting their points across in such a way

This is what Labour needs to be doing they also need better pr advising them

You can always send a cheque to HMRC why wait for tax increase?

@TheRubyRedshoes “They have been limp wet lettuce's on the cost of living crisis.
A few wet media sound bites here and there.”

Maybe that’s strategic on Labour’s part?

Remember, the media is generally in favour of conservatives and right wing too.

Even if Labour do something good, the media will go for an angle that makes them look bad. Or, simply not report on Labour at all; out of sight and out of the public mind.

Didn’t Tony Blair win with the help of Murdoch’s media corporation on his side?

Maybe Labour recognise their position with the media. So it’s actually wider for them to lay low until it’s time to pounce.

they don’t have the media but they have social media they have radio they have numerous political shows to get their message across how they would run the country better by doing xyz

Radio and TV are elements of the media. The only time there’s an obligation for all parties to be given equal coverage is after a general election’s called. Johnson has completely dominated all media for three years now. There’s been plenty on SM if you follow the right accounts.