To think Truss’ government has lost the trust of people who voted Conservatives for the first time at the last general election?

[CurseOfBigness]

“Mr Cameron adds that a lot of people had put their trust in the Conservatives for the first time and Boris Johnson was right to say the job now was to cement that trust and govern for the whole country.” - www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2019-50755004/page/7

This stood out to me at the last general election victory. David Cameron recognised the vulnerability of the majority won by Boris. Truss’ government ought to be reminded and heed the warning.

Truss shows very little understanding of how important that trust is for uniting the whole country (hence the majority win by Boris, not her). Whole country means not just the privileged few who disproportionately benefit from her government’s economically unwise mini-budget (Pound sinks as investors question huge tax cuts).

Both Truss and Starmer have not been tested in a general election in their own right. At least they have something in common…

AIBU - To think Truss’ government has lost the trust of people who voted Conservatives for the first time at the last general election?

^wiser

Argh ok 🙄.

"the Labour leader and the shadow cabinet can do this but they are not."

Hhhmmm. Martin Lewis isn't running for office (much as I'd like him to).

What TV Production team would be willing to give regular lengthy slots to Keir Starmer or Rachel Reeves and not worry about the licence fee, or being sold off or caught in political crossfire? Channel 5?

Whilst much of the media is cowed or owned by Conservative sponsors it's an uphill battle.

@ImNotGreta Didn’t you also dodge my valid question on another thread about how irresponsible it was for Truss to publish the Office of Budget Responsibility report?

^for Truss to not publish the Office of Budget Responsibility report.

"Do you have the decency to admit that you did this, when you said the government was doing nothing?"

They've done something. They've borrowed a lot of money which we will never pay back but will have to pay the interest on.

Budgets require an OBR forecast. "Fiscal events" do not.

Was it a budget? Yes it was.

We know it’s an up hill battle I’m not denying that

where is the determination in the approach it’s just so limp so lacklustre

I want to see Starmer on TV angry I want to see him ranting while getting the message clearly across but what we get is a subdued response no matter what he is saying (and it’s clearly thought out) something is missing in the message getting across

Rayner can’t deal with difficult questioning that’s off topic that’s really not good enough in the position she is in

Have you read up on this a bit? Does not appear to be knee jerk.

To quote the US President (viewed by many journalists as a sideways swipe at Truss after she made her economic policy announcement in his country):

“I am sick and tired of trickle-down economics. It has never worked.
We're building an economy from the bottom up and middle out.” - Biden

More likely, a time will come when the US will tell Truss and the UK “we told you so”.

Truss doesn’t heed valid warnings… but sure, let’s take this huge gamble that we can’t afford and see what happens. It’s not like there’s a war on in Europe or a cost of living crisis in the background, eh?

Of course they do. Political parties do it too. They even pay people to infiltrate SM communities to spread lies and keep them going. The Tory party are pissing themselves laughing at people so gullible that they believe and repeat the lies.

Even today, one day after the Tory party said they're taking out a Wonga loan to put on a roulette wheel,🤯 the faithful and the conned are are doing Baa Baa Baat Layyyburrr, Public Services, Poor People. The Tory government are pissing themselves laughing and working on new strategies to con them out of their vote next time.

Most of them are on here, starting and contributing to threads pretending they are 'just ordinary mums'

What, so they can give it to the government's rich mates? What a fucking stupid argument that is.🙄

Erm. I think it would be more effective if Truss and her government realised first.

Labour are not in power.

@TooBigForMyBoots that poster was offering to pay more tax and lamenting the fact that no party is advocating for tax increase, I just gave her an option of getting rid of her cash should she wish to.

Do you think all tax go to Government's rich mates, do you think we should not pay out taxes when Conservatives are in power?

Do you think all tax go to Government's rich mates, do you think we should not pay out taxes when Conservatives are in power?

We don’t have a lot of choice, do we? Plenty of our tax has gone to their mates - £37 billion to Dido Harding, numerous PPE contracts - they’ve got a lot of form for it.

I believe that's what they call another bullshit "Straw Man Argument*.

I'd still like Jeremy Clarkson as PM.. ;-)

I think this is a knee jerk reaction , you need to wait to see if it stimulates the economy as she thinks. You can’t look at the immediate optics but the actual economic impact of her decisions.

The trouble for the people at the bottom of that even if this policy does result in economic growth, they don't benefit from it. We've had economic growth for most of the past 12 years but more people are using food banks, wages have stagnated, prices have gone up, housing has become more and more unaffordable. What use is a growing economy if your standard of living is not any better?

Did the Good Law Project succeed at proving corruption in allocating PPE contracts, did I miss it, do you have a link?

The mini-budget is an economic gamble that may just pay off. Anyone complaining about too much money from tax cuts can put their money where their money is and pay extra voluntary tax. And of course, vote Labour etc in the next election, to get the wonderfully named 'cuntservatives' out. Such openness, much debate.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/12/use-of-vip-lane-to-award-covid-ppe-contracts-unlawful-high-court-rules

Why not ask him?

He might make politics livelier to watch! At least we’d be entertained…

😂

To quote the US President again “I am sick and tired of trickle-down economics. It has never worked. We're building an economy from the bottom up and middle out.” (Journalists took this as a sideways swipe at Truss, since she announced her economic in his country).

The mini-budget is an economic gamble that may just pay off.

Why do you think this economic gamble will pay off when it has never worked? Magical thinking?

It works in theory, but not in practice. It has never worked before. So why now?

Truss’ economic gambling have poor odds. Should a PM who has never won a general election in her own right be gambling with the economy, nation and peoples’ lives?

Liz Truss’s Historic Gamble With the UK Economy Is Already Unraveling: Markets crash after UK unveils massive unfunded tax cuts and Analysts warn that traders are losing confidence in the pound.

They can't lose with this 'budget, they're looking ahead to the future.

It's unlikely - tho not impossible - that the Tories will win the next election. So, Liz and her gang want to have been seen to do all they could for their rich chums, to book their respective places at the table of various board meetings, to prepare to not be in Government. The budget goes some way to helping with that.
But supposing they'r wrong, and they go on to win? Well, no problem then at all, obv. So it's a 'win-win' scenario for them.

Thanks, that's a long article to say, essentially 'Following a five-day hearing in May 2021, O’Farrell J found almost entirely in the Defendant’s (UK Government) favour' - as this source states www.monckton.com/judgment-good-law-projects-ppe-contracts-challenges/