To think most Brexiteers must now regret their vote?

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If you voted Brexit, do you feel like you have been able to "Take Back Control?" If so, where? Can anyone state one positive change since Brexit - I would genuinely like to hear at least something. Anything?

YANBU - I voted Brexit but now regret it
YABU - I voted Brexit and can see a benefit

Anything that puts money and choices into the hands of people who usually have fewer of both can only be a good thing.

But the EU doesn't have "practices" about migration from outside the EU. It's up to member states what policies they have in place. Your post makes no sense.

I don't regret it at all. I have had a pay rise since Brexit and many of my members have been able to increase their income more in the last few years than they did for the previous 20. I do not want to live in a country where we rely on immigrants who will work harder and cheaper than natives to serve us. If you want something, pay the going rate or go without. Too many people loved having a new serf class of people who would pander to their every whim. Those days are gone.

I dont give a shit if they regret it or not. Theyve done it now. Its all fucked and the rest of us have to live with the shitty consequences.

People voted brexit. People vote tory again and again. Theres a fair old portion of the population would vote for a nuclear war if the Sun or the Mail wrote a persuasion piece on it.

Op brexiteers, like other political "believers" don't change their mind. Its emotional not logical, never was. Now they'll blame it all on covid, Ukraine etc when all the evidence shows were worse off also due to brexit. I'm involved in economics research and there's indisputable evidence we are going to suffer due to labour shortages, weaker pound, brain drain brexiteers blame these on other things, and will always do. There's a nice quote don't recall who from, people don't change their mind, you just need them to die off and a new generation comes along to change things.

Brexit was tempting I.almost voted for it then it went ahead anyway I thought maybe I was wrong? (I voted against because I didn't trust the government to deliver) sadly I was right we are screwed

Not sure why anyone would regret it.

As part of the EU this country was going to hell in a handcart and becoming increasingly unhinged with no steps taken to rectify it.

We were importing huge amounts of cheap labour to suppress inflation and wages, while having millions subsidised by benefits. Middle class people sipping low cost lattes in their village hideaways while the underfunded inner cities fall into ruin.

We were not funding social services such as health and education anywhere enough to accomodate the huge changes in population demographics.

We were not funding in country training for vital services like doctors, nurses anywhere near enough, preferring to import them from abroad (and thus damage the services available in other countries) rather than up our own training and making these careers attractive and offer good prospects for young people.

Houseprices were skyrocketing making it impossible for people on normal wages to live a reasonable quality of life.

Brexit - it's going to hurt. But at the end of it the country is going to be a more balanced, more sustainable and better place for everyone.

The people who hate Brexit are the people who benefitted from us being in the EU. People who thought it was wonderful that they could buy things so cheaply, that they could have an extension put on their house for such a low price, far less than British builders would have charged a few years before. If it was their job that was being affected, they'd sing a different tune.

I'm not convinced that we can really pinpoint "this is because of Brexit" since so much unrelated shit has happened.

I think this as the core was what people voted aginst. Unelected body trying to influence countries own democratic process.

Thread title makes you sound pretty arrogant OP. Most people I know are very happy to be out of the EU.

There have been plenty of benefits. For one, we would be bailing out Germany this winter if we were still in the EU. The success of the vaccine roll out wouldn't have happened in the EU. Loads of sectors have seen big pay rises now that we've reduced reliance on cheap labour from Eastern Europe (my dad for example who is a HGV driver).

I used to work at a Russell group university and know several academics who voted remain, but openly admitted that they only voted that way because of EU research funding, otherwise they would have voted leave. Everyone I know who voted remain did so because they got some personal benefit.

I don't think they do regret it because I think the majority of people who voted for it didn't base their vote on any economical rationale. It was simply to keep 'foreigners' out. They don't regret it one single jot.

In 2016 the EU signed a deal with Turkey who promised to secure its borders to prevent Syrian refugees from entering the EU in exchange for €6 billion in aid.

In 2004 the EU lifted economic sanctions against the then Libyan dictator Colonel Gaddafi. In exchange, he promised to limit migrant flows from Africa.

These are deals with dodgy political players in an attempt to keep the wrong type of migrants from entering the EU.

If the EU made things better and safer for all of us, Brexit wouldn't have happened and what is happening in Poland, Hungary and Italy wouldn't be happening. Being in the EU was beneficial to some people at the expense of others.

Op, you know there’s a Brexit topic?
Maybe post there - it gets lots of traffic and there’s a broad range of opinion on all the threads.

We would happily have employed British workmen or builders. You can't though as they don't show up.

Good that the HGV drivers are being paid more, I guess. Are they happy with the queues at Dover though?

To the pp who works at the RG uni - are you noticing the steep decline in EU students? Do you think this is a shame?

"Unelected body trying to influence countries own democratic process."

As opposed to what? The House of Lords? The royal family? The media? The current cabinet and PM?

The announcement yesterday that the eu based worker rights, including statutory working time rights (including your right to paid holiday at your normal pay) will shortly disappear from our statute books is a direct result of brexit. Indeed brexiteers in government - including kwarteng and Rees Mogg - were explicit that this was to be a key benefit of brexit - remember the promise of Singapore on Thames - well here we are. Well done everyone who voted for this. The people who suffer will be all those workers in low paid jobs with zero bargaining power.

We are free to make our own decisions whether good or bad. We can control EU immigration and set our own tax rates. I am certainly no fan of this current administration. I am a meritocracy advocate so on the left (I believe in nationalisation of essential industry and a well funded NHS) without the state subsidy of those who choose not to work.

Why should these issues be posted on a ‘brexit’ board? Weird. It’s almost as if people don’t want to face up to the implications of what they have done to employment protections in this country.

YABU. I don’t regret it at all - it’s the best thing for our country.

You’ll see it in time, and thank us.

Not this old chestnut again. I voted remain but this is getting really boring

I couldn’t vote due to being away at the time but I’m honestly glad we’re out.

But that is a UK decision. If labour had just got Brexit done and people like Lammy hadn't tried to stop it then we could have a Labour government and we could set better conditions than Europe.

I couldn't agree more. These threads come up with regularity, asking the same question. It never ends well.