Holly and Phil

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Apologies if there are other threads on this. How do we feel about it all? I don't particularly like a pile on but it seems like the tide has finally turned on these two. There was a time when everyone seemed to love them and their 'oh look we've turned up to a This Morning still pissed from an awards ceremony' was funny at the time. But I think it's gone to their heads and they've become more and more arrogant.

The queue jump situation for me was a clear sign of them thinking they are special, for want of a better phrase. Queuing showed dedication and respect but they just bypassed that. And the weak excuses since haven't helped at all. I see now Holly is consulting lawyers. It must be difficult for them to go on air knowing there's so much public bad feeling against them but I can't help but feel like they've had it coming for a while....

Anyone else?

I just spat out my tea

I've never been able to stand them and am not usually around to watch their daft programmes anyway.

OMG I just learned that not only did Holly and Phil jump the queue but they tipped a couple of Chelsea Pensioners out of their wheel chairs so they could sit down and have a cup of tea after!!!!!!!!!!!!

The smuggers!!!!!!

Don't care about the queue cutting really but I absolutely can't stand them.
I genuinely judge people who like them. Same for people who like Ant & Dec as it goes.

Boris got away with a lot worse for a long time.

I wonder if people think Holly and Phil do their morning show on their phones in selfie mode?

Surely the segment was planned and scheduled risk assessed by production and they were told where they'd be going and when. Admittedly I don't know if they also have production roles but as a presenter is Phil on a par with Gordon the Gopher in terms of role?

Given the appalling state of affairs in the uk presently and the dismantling of the rights afoot, I'm surprised anyone can care so much about this personally. Perhaps people just need to vent their misery in something simple.

I don't like Phil and Holly i think they absolutely saturate ITV and I find their present style irritating and boring after so long.

I find Ruth and Eamon much more down to Earth and relatable, and more pleasant to watch.

Having said that, I think that the abuse that Phil and Holly are getting is beyond ridiculous and frankly cruel. I wonder how many of the people spouting shit on social media have 'be kind' on their tag line or made a fuss about the treatment Caroline Flack received.

I don't think any of the media should have got a free pass to go in to the Lying in State. There was a live stream 24/7 and constant news coverage.

People were queueing for hours on end out of respect, so it isn't right that people were getting to go in so easily just to have a quick look 'for the media'.

But the fact that Phil and Holly were either instructed or invited to go is not their 'fault'. I bet a lot of people who are kicking off would be the first to grab the opportunity themselves.

It's becoming very intense now and it needs to stop.

I don't watch whatever programme they're on (mind blank), can't say I'm huge fans of either of them but it certainly does seem like a pile on.

I read that they had media passes, if this is the case then they haven't "queue jumped"... or if so why hasn't everyone with a media pass been called out?

I'll repeat what I said on another thread, but it's essentially the dishonesty which is really pissing people off.

If they'd just held their hands up and admitted that it was a bad idea, and that they thought it would be a nice idea for a feature but they can see that it was poorly thought out blah blah, I think people wouldn't really care that much.

It's the doubling down.

On one hand they're insisting that they didn't actually get to pay their respects to the queen lying in state, and only got taken to a media platform at the back which was nowhere near the coffin, and that they really truly didn't have the same experience as people who had queued up. That they were "filming" and worked "hard on the feature all weekend".

Then on the other hand you have the actual "feature" which involves footage from the main Westminster feed, not footage filmed inside by This Morning. Phil and Holly gushing down the camera afterwards about what a "profound" experience it was inside. But remember, they didn't actually have the experience even though on camera they described it as a profound experience...........slight contradiction or what?! But that's it. I've seen more in-depth "features" from members of the public who have been interviewed by a news crew after exiting the viewing.

So there wasn't any actual "feature". All of the footage could have been seen elsewhere. The only extra bit was Phil and Holly talking to the camera afterwards and agreeing that the experience (that they now say they didn't actually have) was "profound".

As for their claims that they were taken to a rear platform nowhere near the people viewing the coffin, also absolute bull shit. See attached. They walked right along the side - the media platform is right at the back.

I don't really care too much about them one way or the other but I despise dishonesty. And they're treating us as if we're stupid. They CLEARLY used their media passes to get in and experience the queen lying in state, and that was probably a bit thoughtless given the people queueing outside. They thought that gushing down the camera would somehow justify it - it doesn't. Especially as they're not normally roving reporters. It just feels like they used their press privilege and created a weak "feature" to justify it. They didn't offer anything that wasn't on a billion other channels, and they should just admit that it was thoughtless and a bad idea so we can all move on. As it stands, they just look like even more entitled, selfish dicks and that's because of what they said after, just as much as what they did!

This what Eammon Holmes had to say about Holly…

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He also says that ITV need a complete sort out from management down.

The issue is that there was no need to go inside - and it's not something they normally do. They're not journalists or reporters, they're morning TV show presenters. And lots of other media people who would have qualified for a media pass didn't take up the opportunity to queue jump - because it's a bit shit.

The "feature" didn't contain any information other than "we saw the queen lying in state and it was amazing". Literally that was it. Which really rubs people's noses in it who were queuing. But they now say they didn't really see the queen lying in state, which is contradictory, because that's exactly what they said to camera after they went in..... They've just dug a hole for themselves rather than being honest.

They could have done a feature on the people who pulled the event together, or the organisation behind the scenes etc - that would have justified being inside. But to say "ooooh it was amazing".....well, yeah. Lots of people said that. We know. That is the shittiest excuse ever to queue jump. Oh, and they also lied about where they said they went inside too.

Just all round a bit duplicitous really.

But the MP's and peers weren't claiming that they weren't! It's the lying that everyone is objecting to. This BS saying they were working! They weren't. They just couldn't be arsed to queue.

Bye bye to the pair of them. Both far too arrogant for their own good. Her wearing a mask to hide herself (presumably) whilst walking in front of him! Hilarious!

It's quite telling that nobody seems to be really sticking up for them publicly

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11235735/DAN-WOOTTON-Phillip-Schofield-Holly-Willoughby-taken-fools.html

I don't like this poisonous little twonk. But he seems to back what others have said about them at itv

I completely agree with you @SpidersAreShitheads

They got the chance to skip The Queue and took it it. And then lied outright about reporting. Just own up ffs.

So much emotion around the Queen's death and the 10s of thousands who did queue. So this on top of many people's irritation about their smugness plus many people's disgust at Schofield's "bravery" PR stunt given his grooming of a teenager and impact on his wife and daughters is a bit of a vicious storm. I think Holly made a mistake staying so loyal. If she can unhitch herself and do some grovelling the "public" might forgive her...

I can't stand them and avoid everything they're on. They've had the ITV golden handcuffs for too long. The Loose women are equally as terrible, (especially their SM accounts) both programmes are dated.

Usually for this sort of report they send Alison or Josie so why were they doing it anyway, if not to view the Queen's coffin

I can't say I really feel strongly about it all to be honest!
Celebs often get special treatment it's no different
I am just bemused by the petition. I really couldn't be bothered getting involved.
I haven't seen the programme that they are on but I really don't think it is a sackable offence.

Never really liked them but can't get worked up over the queue-jumping saga which seems like a massive overreaction from people with too much time on their hands. There are much more important causes to be petitioning for.

Blimey, Eamonn's not mincing his words!
'Holly's always in tears'!
Tbf I would be if my £600,000 a year job was under threat!
Her mistake was in hitching her wagon to PS. And I don't like how ITV are trying to stop criticism by expressing concerns for H&P 'well-being'.
PS has, imo the hind of a rhino, so I'm not overly concerned about his state of mind. And if H can't take criticism for her own behaviour then I'd suggest a career in television might not be for her!

Be kind doesn't equate to never criticise people

That’s my understanding too. They don’t have too many fans among those that have to deal with them so I’m told by friends in that industry so I expect the momentum for this is generated by their detractors rather than the general public who don’t necessarily know who they are and have got rather bigger problems to deal with.

They are in the world of low rent tabloid daytime TV, being positioned or positioning themselves as cozy and authentic. It seems to me that it’s inevitable that put a foot wrong or appear to do the wrong thing, it will inevitably result in a tabloid trial by media, much as they’d do to others. It’s the world they have chosen to inhabit and which pays them handsomely and places them on a pedestal where it’s easy to start to think you’re special and where many people are just waiting to push you off the pedestal (Whether it’s fair or not).

I know they did. I just used him as example as he was photographed there with his kids.

Yes- next week they’re live from Ukraine. Oh wait.

They did a segment and probably wanted to go didn’t they- let’s face it. They wanted to go and used the show/a segment as an excuse to cut the queues. There was live footage on all tv networks. We didn’t need those two there did we? Honestly? For their groundbreaking report. Come off it!
They’re both overpaid idiots but the masses like daytime shit tv. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I bet she’s weeping in her cereal at the thought of giving it up. They’ll only get sacked if people stop tuning in- which they won’t.