That this looks like a stunt to undermine trans issues

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Article in the Daily Mail, not sure if I should link to it…

A Canadian teacher in transition to female is pictured with enormous prosthetic breasts which they wear as part of their gender identity. When I saw the article I thought it must be a stunt against transgender people and trying to ridicule men transitioning to female. If they actually want to dress that way then to me, it looks like they are fetishising rather than genuinely transgender.

I am usually all for dressing how ever you want but it just looks so inappropriate, AIBU?

She is so brave for standing up to this transphobic hate.

Because trans women will do their best to successfully pass as cis women

So transwomen are women but this particularly transwoman isn't? Is that because it's making people like you look bad?

Tell me, how do I tell the difference?

Being trans is the feeling in someone's head. It means absolutely nothing. It's stereotypes and personality, nothing more.

Read what I said to Theeyeballsinthesky and you might understand

Yanbu to think this is fetishising or in appropriate.

However I can't see how facts can ever me described at "hate speech "

I could roll in breadcrumbs and identify as a fishfinger.

It doesn't make me one though .

There are only two chromosomes that define sex . X and Y .

That's not hate speech . That's biological fact .

If you believe that, you're transphobic.

Acceptance without exception, no debate.

A TW doesn't have to change anything, no diagnosis, no hormones, surgery, different clothes, different name, different pronouns, absolutely nothing. If you don't believe that, you're a bigot. That's how it works, right?

This is what you wanted and are fighting for. This is the outcome.

This.

It’s not a stunt, his employer issued a statement defending him.

It’s because that person is NOT trans. Trans women do their best to pass as cis women.

Being transgender is not a personality trait, and for the record- assuming you’re in a relationship or have children, then your love for them is also a feeling in your head and in the grand scheme of things, means nothing.

Trans women are women regardless of medical or social transition but due to social and gender dysphoria, if it’s safe to do so then they’ll often try to express who they are with what they look like.

Feeling love is feeling an emotion/attachment. Feeling like a woman is believing you could also feel like a potato. In that sense, when you say you feel like a woman you actually mean you believe you are something other than.

A woman is not a feeling so...

Yes, well done. Sex is biological and can’t be changed. What this whole thing is about is gender, a societal construct.

This person SAYS they are a transwoman.

That's enough. Under self ID, saying it is all they have to do. That means they ARE a transwoman, ergo they are a woman, according to your statement (twaw).

You're saying they're not a tw?
How transphobic.

If I was a teenage girl in that school where an older man was playing out his disgusting breast fetish fantasy in plain site I would feel horrified, alone and traumatised.

👋

Says who?

’passing’ is absolutely not a requirement at all

If someone told you you had to be a man and act like a man then wouldn’t it feel wrong? Wouldn’t you feel out of place?

@robin5810

It’s because that person is NOT trans. Trans women do their best to pass as cis women.
False. If this was the case then NO ONE would question trans women. Gay people are widely accepted in the western world because their harmless albeit different way of life harms no one, therefore no one would have a problem with trans women either if they were totally harmless.

your love for them is also a feeling in your head and in the grand scheme of things, means nothing
The idea of "love" is frequently dispusted, with many people asking what "love" really is, so by your logic, if we can question the concept of love then why can't we question transgenderism?

You dont see hate on Mumsnet you see biological that howver they identify, transwomen are men and as such, in wonans spaces they represent at best an intrusion and at worse a threat.

How on earth have you come to the conclusion that we don't care about those issues?

You don't have to be dysphoric to be trans, didn't you know? Or wait, are you what they call truscum?

So yes, that is a transwoman. There is no difference at all. You wanted this, you were warned and no doubt called people names. This is what people on MN have been warning about for years.

The idea that this is a stunt comes from a post on 4chan from what I remember. It may be true, or it may not, but materially there's no difference. If someone says they are a woman then they are according to people like you. There is no test to pass and you know it.

Acting like a man and being a man is 2 different things.

which man would I act like m? They are all different. My dp doesnt act like my ds who doesn’t act like my dad.

Acting ‘like a man’ would make me a man.

How does one act like a man?

That’s very transphobic of you @robin. Not all TW have passing privilege you know. How dare you insinuate that a poor vulnerable transwoman is not a woman as she doesn’t meet your shallow views of beauty and your narrow minded rules in what a woman should look like. Educate yourself you bigot.

Ahh, to the criteria is that "real" trans women sufficiently conform to women's gender sterotypes. So how much do they have to confirm to become a "real" transwoman? 51% 75% 90% Suppose they really really want to but can't afford to? Do they get some sort of universal credit to make up the difference to get them over the 51% mark to be a "real" trans woman?

Ffs acting ‘like a man’ WOULDN’T make me a man