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To think daddy/daughter kinks are weird af?

274 replies

bringingdownthehotel · 21/09/2022 08:14

Been dating a what I thought to be lovely man for a month and a half. Last night we were talking about our fantasies etc and he basically told me he has a daddy/daughter fantasy and likes being called daddy. I said 'daddy' in a laughing way and he was like 'mmm say it again' dead serious.

Now I'm all for people being into what they are into whether I like it or not. But what especially grosses me out here is the fact that he has a daughter! I just think it's so wrong! And it's sadly put me right off the more I think about it. It seems perverse.

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OP posts:
Bunnyfuller · 21/09/2022 17:48

I’m still stuck at the doublespeak/doublethink around the use of ‘Daddy’. It’s bollocks. Either it isn’t ‘Daddy’, in which case use a different word, or it is, and ergo this is fucked up and gut wrenching. Pretending the word means anything other than what we know it to be is gaslighting.

porn is literally runaway: daddy/step children/rape/choking/ejaculation against woman’s will.

why do people want to normalise abuse? This goes beyond kinks, so far away from kinks. Justify yourselves all you want, it’s fucking vile.

mycatisannoying · 21/09/2022 17:50

cambiando · 21/09/2022 08:28

I am fucking fed up of living in a culture that wants to accept things that are clearly wrong as some sort of sexy fetish to explore. Since we split up I've found out that exh is apparently into this. It's not a fetish, it's just wrong. I am constantly anxious about my daughter when she's with him. Does he enjoy it when she calls him what he likes being called sexually? Can you really separate the two? And I'm stuck because I don't have enough grounds for full custody. So I have to keep sending her to him, knowing that this is in the background. I'm basically just extremely worried about her all the time and have no idea what to do to protect her.

So no, it's not normal or acceptable, it's deeply concerning.

It's weird and wrong, yes, but I'm sure he is able to separate the kink from his own daughter Confused
It doesn't mean he's going to sexually abuse her.

beastlyslumber · 21/09/2022 18:04

I'm sure he is able to separate the kink from his own daughter

How can you be sure? Someone who is turned on by the idea of daddies and daughters having sex doesn't sound 100% safe to me.

The whole thing is just sick and I'm very sorry for any woman who gets caught up in this thinking it's what she has to do to be cool.

Softplayhooray · 21/09/2022 18:05

Jesus Christ what have I just read?!

Letstalkaboutsexadult · 21/09/2022 18:40

Presumably the people with master/slave kinks have no real opportunity to act these out

Do you genuinely believe that everyone who plays a sex game in which they are a slave would want to actually be one in real life?

That the men who get their kinks by dressing up in French maids would love a cleaning job but just can't get one for some reason?

Fantasy roleplay is not at all to do with real life. It's not just lack of opportunity to really be slaves, it's that really being a slave would be as unsexy as fuck.

We see you

In my case you see a middle aged woman who played a few sex games 20 years ago that may not be to your taste but didn't hurt anyone. That doesn't make me an 'apologist' for sexual abuse.

HotDogJumpingFrogHaveACookie · 21/09/2022 19:00

YouSirNeighMmmm · 21/09/2022 12:57

Do you think normalizing incest is harmful?

I note that two consenting adults can engage in incest role-play whilst playing no part in normalizing incest, by the simple fact of not sharing their kinks.

I know I'm stating the obvious here, but it isn't incest, or even an incest fantasy.

Letstalkaboutsexadult · 21/09/2022 19:10

I am finding it impossible to reconcile the idea that you can use the word daddy without thinking of your father

The concept of fatherhood and the parent/child relationship is not equal to my specific Dad.

Just as I can ask a lost child in the park where their Daddy is, without thinking of my dad.

A fantasy about a pretend relationship is not incest, and not the same as getting off on abuse.

HotDogJumpingFrogHaveACookie · 21/09/2022 19:12

A very common sexual fantasy amongst women is to be overpowered and raped. That doesn't mean there's hoardes of women going about their daily business wishing someone would rape them. It also doesn't mean that the partners who indulge their fantasy are wanting to rape women.

It's absolutely fine to dislike something. As I said, DDLG isn't for me at all. But saying any man into it wants to have sex with their own daughter is a ridiculous stretch.

beastlyslumber · 21/09/2022 19:13

It's looks very much like you're getting off on pretending to commit incest.

Just because you call it 'role playing' instead of pretending does not make it any less revolting.

Incest is taboo for a reason. If you break taboos you should expect to be villified and ostacised by society. You shouldn't feel unashamed to talk about it as though it's a normal part of sexuality. It isn't.

Pinkdelight3 · 21/09/2022 19:24

Well yes you don't see this kind of porn aimed at women. Because women aren't on the whole interested in it.

Actually there are guys who make a living doing personalised wank videos spouting this exact fantasy for women who pay to hear it and presumably wank along to. So some women are interested, if not a vast number. And once again, nobody is abusing anyone. It's a different thing. Some get it, some never will. That's not anyone being right or wrong. Just takes all sorts.

ArcticSkewer · 21/09/2022 19:26

AdamRyan · 21/09/2022 16:31

Writing is not a real expression of a fantasy sorry

Putting 'sorry' on the end of a sentence doesn't make it true .... sorry ....

Why do you think writing is not a real expression of a fantasy (by definition of course, all fantasy is not real)

AdamRyan · 21/09/2022 20:13

It was sorry for the typo not the statement!
Video porn or role play are real life expressions of a fantasy.
Reading about sex is an imaginary expression of a fantasy.

They are not equivalent

AdamRyan · 21/09/2022 20:16

Pinkdelight3 · 21/09/2022 19:24

Well yes you don't see this kind of porn aimed at women. Because women aren't on the whole interested in it.

Actually there are guys who make a living doing personalised wank videos spouting this exact fantasy for women who pay to hear it and presumably wank along to. So some women are interested, if not a vast number. And once again, nobody is abusing anyone. It's a different thing. Some get it, some never will. That's not anyone being right or wrong. Just takes all sorts.

Cool story 😎

ArcticSkewer · 21/09/2022 21:41

AdamRyan · 21/09/2022 20:16

Cool story 😎

Read up about ASMR. Ever beard of Gaelforce, for example?

Some men do make money out of erotic audio porn aimed squarely at the female market.
I don't know about videos - women prefer their porn without visuals often (books/audio).

HRTQueen · 21/09/2022 21:54

Some men

what all of 3

AdamRyan · 21/09/2022 22:05

ASMR is not a way men make money out of women wanking 😂

Bit of a reach there

ArcticSkewer · 21/09/2022 22:05

AdamRyan · 21/09/2022 22:05

ASMR is not a way men make money out of women wanking 😂

Bit of a reach there

Honestly some of you are clueless

QueenCamilla · 21/09/2022 22:51

Oh yeah, if spotty, angsty, greasy-haired misfit teens (men in their 40s) wrote it (wanked to it) on their Fandom forums, it must be alright. 🙄

Yuck.

AdamRyan · 21/09/2022 22:54

Also....erotic audio is not porn.
Completely irrelevant to a thread about a man with a fetish.....

KeepOutingMyselfAnotherNameChange · 21/09/2022 23:17

Gives me the absolutely ick. Never understood it. I've never heard a woman want their partner to call them mummy. Pretty vile isn't it.

KeepOutingMyselfAnotherNameChange · 21/09/2022 23:18

*absolute

Valeriekat · 23/09/2022 22:23

124scones · 21/09/2022 14:47

If a man said this to me, I'd just think he was sad and inadequate tbh. I wouldn't think there wax a paedo connection particularly. If anything, it would strike me as he wanted to create some kind of pimp dynamic where the hooker calls him "daddy". Not exactly great obviously, but not connected to children or his own daughter either. Of it could be just something along the lines of the way people say "You the daddy" as if to say "You the man". I mean, he didn't say he wants the OP to dress up or behave as a child (or did I miss something)?

It strikes me as a variation of a mild sub-dom type dynamic - the way some men may want you to dress up in a maid dress or whatever. They're hardly going to be hanging out in hotel corridors looking for maids in real life.

Unless they are Dominique Strauss-Kahn!

HappyDays40 · 23/09/2022 22:26

Just leaving this very apt Iron Maiden sing here....
Please take its advice thyg.uk/BQS007390918

Onlyforcake · 23/09/2022 22:46

Ah the confidence to assume everyone has the willingness to not act on a sexual desire. Calling it a kink or a fantasy doesn't make it harmless or fun.

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