AIBU?
If you don't usually work Monday's and now there's an extra bank holiday...
Dressme2023 · 13/09/2022 19:23
...would you be bothered?
I'm actually not, I'm getting to see the funeral which is the important bit to me.
However many colleagues have the same day off and are now pushing for an extra half day annual leave to make up for it.
It feels a bit unnecessary and grabby to me but I'm in the minority.
Thoughts?
You're being unreasonable - you should get extra leave granted
You're not being unreasonable - everyone should just accept it for what it is and move on
Am I being unreasonable?
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jacostajune · 14/09/2022 07:50
Lemons1571 · 13/09/2022 20:02
I’ve lost 2 hours off my annual leave allowance. Because I usually work Mondays. So they couldn’t possibly give me Monday off plus my usual day off (later in the week). So pro rats I’ve lost 2 hours off my total annual leave allowance.
I am a bit annoyed to be honest.
I don't understand this? How have you lost two hours?
Runnerduck34 · 14/09/2022 07:51
I'm in same situation. Was a bit miffed funeral wasn't on Friday tbh!
However my employer has added a pro rota'd BH to my leave which is the statutory duty. Which I'm relieved about as it would be difficult to ask for it. However its a BH so legally everyone should get a day added to their BH entitlement even if they have to work it or its not their rota'd day.
I will watch the funeral but plenty of people won't and will use their extra day to do something else.
Datgal · 14/09/2022 08:00
It's quite worrying some people's attitude towards this. And it's no wonder a lot of people get shafted when it comes to being treated fairly.
If someone cannot see why people who don't work Mondays are entitled to have time off just the same as everybody else, then I despair. Thick as pigshit basically.
RockingMyFiftiesNot · 14/09/2022 08:19
What on earth is 'grabby' about wanting what is fair and your right?
Watching the funeral isn't a condition of having the day off, so why should full time workers be allowed an extra day off to go for a walk, go to the beach or binge watch something on Netflix, when someone who doesn't work Mondays doesn't get any extra leave?
Part-timers must not be treated less favourably than full-time workers, which means they should have a pro rata Bank Holiday allocation added into their overall holiday allowance if they don't normally work on the day the BH falls on.
A PP mentioned that in their area part timers don't get Bank Holiday if they don't work those days. It's not a regional thing legally!
Whilst there may be some legitimate grounds for exceptions, if you are a part tine worker who doesn't work Mondays, and you're not being awarded any additional leave, suggest you gen up on your rights.
smileandsing · 14/09/2022 08:24
No one has 'lost' anything, they just haven't gained a holiday, or pro rata equivalent.
I work shifts in what, to use a pandemic term, is a front line key worker role. Bank hols are added to our annual leave entitlement because we have to work them if our shifts fall on those days. No mention of an 'extra' holiday being added for us (will be interesting to see if the office workers get the day off though).
jacostajune · 14/09/2022 08:29
smileandsing · 14/09/2022 08:24
No one has 'lost' anything, they just haven't gained a holiday, or pro rata equivalent.
I work shifts in what, to use a pandemic term, is a front line key worker role. Bank hols are added to our annual leave entitlement because we have to work them if our shifts fall on those days. No mention of an 'extra' holiday being added for us (will be interesting to see if the office workers get the day off though).
Well yes if everyone who works on Monday gets a extra BH and all those that don't, don't, then of course they have "lost" something! You have a legal right to equitable leave.
MongoOnlyPawnInGameOfLife · 14/09/2022 08:38
Datgal · 14/09/2022 08:00
It's quite worrying some people's attitude towards this. And it's no wonder a lot of people get shafted when it comes to being treated fairly.
If someone cannot see why people who don't work Mondays are entitled to have time off just the same as everybody else, then I despair. Thick as pigshit basically.
Quite. So many willing wage slaves it's depressing. Working is a means to an end and not the end itself.
How is my son, on a zero hours contract, 'grabby' because he wants to be treated the same as someone with a nice comfy 9-5 office job, especially when he already gets shafted in all kinds of other ways.
Also, a lot of the part-time workforce who will be affected by this are women. Sad to see so little support or consideration for them on a site like this.
BordoisAgain · 14/09/2022 08:41
smileandsing · 14/09/2022 08:24
No one has 'lost' anything, they just haven't gained a holiday, or pro rata equivalent.
I work shifts in what, to use a pandemic term, is a front line key worker role. Bank hols are added to our annual leave entitlement because we have to work them if our shifts fall on those days. No mention of an 'extra' holiday being added for us (will be interesting to see if the office workers get the day off though).
They have lost out.
FT worker A is now getting an extra 8 hours paid leave so PT worker B should also get the pro-rata equivalent extra paid leave.
jacostajune · 14/09/2022 08:46
smileandsing · 14/09/2022 08:36
jacostajune I didn't say it was fair, just that some have gained while others haven't.
Either award it to all, or don't. Employers should not be seen to be treating some employees more favourably than others.
So we do agree! You can't give to one group and not to another. Unfair but also illegal!
jacostajune · 14/09/2022 08:50
itsnotmeitsdefinitelyyou · 13/09/2022 19:58
Nope, no day off in lieu, hasn't it's always been like this for Bank Holidays?
It'd be a logistical nightmare for companies to accommodate the Bank Holiday and then all the days in lieu otherwise!
It's been a long time since I worked one but they've never been particularly fair for those who aren't scheduled for a Monday and it's just tough luck 😉
It's not "just tough luck", it's illegal, and has been for quite some time..
jacostajune · 14/09/2022 08:51
Cactuslockdown · 13/09/2022 19:27
I don’t work on a Monday and will just be happy to be he with the kids and watch the funeral. I expect some will call for an extra day to make up though which is a bit crass
Why is it crass? Unless those that are taking Monday off to watch the funeral aren't getting paid, then it's both unfair and illegal. Nothing crass about it at all. 
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Stompythedinosaur · 14/09/2022 09:54
smileandsing · 14/09/2022 08:24
No one has 'lost' anything, they just haven't gained a holiday, or pro rata equivalent.
I work shifts in what, to use a pandemic term, is a front line key worker role. Bank hols are added to our annual leave entitlement because we have to work them if our shifts fall on those days. No mention of an 'extra' holiday being added for us (will be interesting to see if the office workers get the day off though).
The Trust's local to me are absolutely giving an additional day in lieu to staff working on Monday.
The bank holiday should be treated the same as any other bank holiday.
Thenightwemet16 · 14/09/2022 10:03
TBT · 13/09/2022 22:57
I work in a college. Monday is my usual day off. I asked HR if I get another day off or pay and was dismissed with ‘ it’s not a usual bank holiday ‘ so basically be patriotic and don’t worry if everyone else is being paid for a days work and you’re not. I am a bit annoyed to say the least.
I've just sent an email to my hr department (university) who had stated that those not contracted to work Mondays won't be entitled to the day off quoting the Part-time Workers (Prevention of less favourable treatment) regs 2000, which states that part-time employees are protected from being treated less favourably.
(Full time staff will be getting paid 100% salary for 80% hours that week, pt staff 100% salary for 100% hours.)
So surely they're breaking the law?
I have wondered whether I was being petty over what would be 4.5 hours for me, but part-time staff do often get less favourable treatment so it's more the principle for me.
Thenightwemet16 · 14/09/2022 10:21
Synny · 14/09/2022 07:22
That's not fair - could you change your day next week?
Thenightwemet16 · 13/09/2022 20:04
I think it is a bit unfair... My employer (HEI) has said that those who don't normally work Mondays won't get the hours back pro-rata in leu (which contradicts the policy about every other bank holiday).
So because I work a four-day week with a day off on Monday, I'm working a four-day week for the same amount of pay as someone who also ordinarily works four days (but with a day off on Friday) is working three days.
I've sent an email to HR quoting the part-time workers regs, but if no response, I am tempted to do this! I've swapped my non-working day around before (on different occasions for both my and my employer's benefit) so wouldn't be unprecedented 😁
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