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If you don't usually work Monday's and now there's an extra bank holiday...
Dressme2023 · 13/09/2022 19:23
...would you be bothered?
I'm actually not, I'm getting to see the funeral which is the important bit to me.
However many colleagues have the same day off and are now pushing for an extra half day annual leave to make up for it.
It feels a bit unnecessary and grabby to me but I'm in the minority.
Thoughts?
You're being unreasonable - you should get extra leave granted
You're not being unreasonable - everyone should just accept it for what it is and move on
Am I being unreasonable?
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BartyPags · 13/09/2022 19:56
Oh please, its not ‘grabby’ of people to ask for equal treatment at work. Government guidance says it’s exactly the same as any other bank holiday:
Q Is this an official bank holiday, or does it have a special status?
A This bank holiday is official and applies in the same way as all others.
www.gov.uk/government/news/bank-holiday-announced-for-her-majesty-queen-elizabeth-iis-state-funeral-on-monday-19-september
Whatever your work normally does, they should also do that with this bank holiday.
itsnotmeitsdefinitelyyou · 13/09/2022 19:58
Nope, no day off in lieu, hasn't it's always been like this for Bank Holidays?
It'd be a logistical nightmare for companies to accommodate the Bank Holiday and then all the days in lieu otherwise!
It's been a long time since I worked one but they've never been particularly fair for those who aren't scheduled for a Monday and it's just tough luck 😉
Lemons1571 · 13/09/2022 20:02
I’ve lost 2 hours off my annual leave allowance. Because I usually work Mondays. So they couldn’t possibly give me Monday off plus my usual day off (later in the week). So pro rats I’ve lost 2 hours off my total annual leave allowance.
I am a bit annoyed to be honest.
Thenightwemet16 · 13/09/2022 20:04
I think it is a bit unfair... My employer (HEI) has said that those who don't normally work Mondays won't get the hours back pro-rata in leu (which contradicts the policy about every other bank holiday).
So because I work a four-day week with a day off on Monday, I'm working a four-day week for the same amount of pay as someone who also ordinarily works four days (but with a day off on Friday) is working three days.
User12398712 · 13/09/2022 20:05
For those who think it is grabby to want time off if you don't work on a Monday, what do you think about part-timers who do work on a Monday. Many will have to take the whole day off due to businesses being closed but will only get a pro-rata share of the day off so will have to make up extra time elsewhere. Should they get a whole day?
Thenightwemet16 · 13/09/2022 20:09
luxxlisbon · 13/09/2022 19:24
Why would you/they get an extra days leave? It is a day off for many sectors for a specific purpose, if you are already off then there is no need. It’s not a holiday, most things will be shut.
But it's unfair as, take for example, two employees who both work four days amd get paid the same. One has Mondays off (employee A) and the other has Fridays off (employee B).
That week, employee A will be working four days (Tuesday-Friday). Employee B will only be working three days (Tuesday-Thursday). Both for the same amount of money.
All other bank holidays are calculated in hours and added pro-rata to annual leave so for the rest of time it's equal.
Arnaquer · 13/09/2022 20:12
User12398712 · 13/09/2022 20:05
For those who think it is grabby to want time off if you don't work on a Monday, what do you think about part-timers who do work on a Monday. Many will have to take the whole day off due to businesses being closed but will only get a pro-rata share of the day off so will have to make up extra time elsewhere. Should they get a whole day?
This used to bug me when I was part time. I was never offered chance to work it like my FT colleagues were, but had to make up the hours elsewhere. Felt like double penalising
Thenightwemet16 · 13/09/2022 20:13
LuckyCat4 · 13/09/2022 19:25
I don't work on a Monday and I don't expect another day off
So you don't mind working more days that week for the same amount of money than colleagues who will get both the Monday off and another day that they ordinarily don't work?
Thenightwemet16 · 13/09/2022 20:16
Princessglittery · 13/09/2022 19:38
Legally it will depend if your employer a) gives an extra days holiday or b) takes it out of existing holiday allowance.
a) you should get pro rats extra hours/days leave
b) their leave allowance will reduce and yours will stay the same.
Yes, I think I need to query this with my HR actually (have been told that if we don't work Mondays we don't get the time pro-rata in lieu). Tbh I was a bit surprised actually as my employer (University) is usually pretty on the ball and they obviously don't do this with other bank holidays!
spongedog · 13/09/2022 20:24
I'm in a job share where technically BH entitlements are to be shared. I dont work Mondays, my colleague does. My employer seems oblivious to the impact. So with this BH and the previous years I now have the delightful job of trying to get a poor employer to step up and deal with this properly. I think my colleague so far has benefited from at least 4 more days off than me, so it really isnt just this BH.
Saltovinegar · 13/09/2022 20:27
Staff who normally work on a Monday will have a day off and be paid for it therefore if you don't work a Monday you are also entitled to a day off on full pay and it should be added to your annual leave. It isn't grabby it's about everyone being treated the same.
Jackiebrambles · 13/09/2022 20:29
Saltovinegar · 13/09/2022 20:27
Staff who normally work on a Monday will have a day off and be paid for it therefore if you don't work a Monday you are also entitled to a day off on full pay and it should be added to your annual leave. It isn't grabby it's about everyone being treated the same.
Exactly this. I don't work Mondays so I have been given more holiday entitlement for this extra bank hols.
MattDillonsEyebrows · 13/09/2022 20:38
But would it ever actually be fair?
Just playing devil's advocate but the people who work the Monday have to take the days leave when they're told to.
If you don't work Mondays you can take the time when you like, and that's not fair on the ones who had to take it for the funeral.
I'm sure most people would prefer to take leave at their choosing not just because there's a funeral of someone they don't know.
How would you make that fair?
Saltovinegar · 13/09/2022 20:39
onlythreenow · 13/09/2022 20:33
It sounds grabby to me. Where I live, if a public holiday falls on a day you don't normally work then it's just tough luck.
Why is it grabby? You are saying you are happy for your colleagues to get a day off with full pay and you miss out? You don't get paid for a Monday but you are also entitled to a day off with full pay it's just that you can take it on a different day.
Darbs76 · 13/09/2022 20:40
our part time staff usually get a portion of the bank holiday, and are given the hours at start of year. If they don’t work a Monday, they get those hours elsewhere to use. I’m not sure though if they will allow staff to do that for this, as they get Monday off anyway. I expect they will have to, though in my opinion they don’t need to as the day is for mourning, not the usual BH
Darbs76 · 13/09/2022 20:42
onlythreenow · 13/09/2022 20:33
It sounds grabby to me. Where I live, if a public holiday falls on a day you don't normally work then it's just tough luck.
Most companies give staff a portion of those hours to use elsewhere - it’s not grabby. Why should only full time or those who work Mondays get an extra 10 days off per year?
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