If you don't usually work Monday's and now there's an extra bank holiday...

Exactly, you are at the advantage as you don’t work a Monday!! That’s my advice- if you get to chose your part time days Do not pick a Monday. You will only get pro rata bank holidays which will not likely cover the bank holidays that fall on a Monday so you’ll have to use annual leave to take the Monday off- no choice in the matter and often even if your employer doesn’t give that certain bank holidays your childcare will be off and you’ll be paying for it anyway. Whereas if you work other days than Monday you get the pro rata bank holiday to use as you please- you have flexibility ! can book yourself a day off on a random weekday and your child will be in daycare still !

Why is it grabby? You are saying you are happy for your colleagues to get a day off with full pay and you miss out? You don't get paid for a Monday but you are also entitled to a day off with full pay it's just that you can take it on a different day.

I dont live in the UK. Here not all our public holidays fall on a Monday. If a public holiday falls on a day you normally work, and you have the day off, you are paid for the hours you would usually work. If you don't normally work on that day you don't get paid - and you don't get a day in lieu either. I have literally never heard anyone complain about it. As it happens I work Monday - Friday, but if I didn't work Mondays and missed out on a paid day off I couldn't care less - and yes, I have been in that position. So yes, I still think it is grabby.

Our work isn't even giving us the bank holiday. I don't think I'd be bothered though.

I don’t work on Mondays, I don’t know yet what my company will do but I will find out later today. I would expect to get a pro rated benefit of a leave day as I do not believe I should be treated less favourably than full time staff. I won’t make a fuss if I am not, but it is not grabby, it is no different to not being penalised for any other bank holiday Monday.

You live in a country tat treats part time workers very badly then. Or maybe you are simply not aware of how things really work and just assume it is hard luck.

You live in a country tat treats part time workers very badly then. Or maybe you are simply not aware of how things really work and just assume it is hard luck.

Don't be so ridiculous. Why on earth should someone get a holiday or be paid if a holiday falls on a day when they don't work? As for being in a country which treats workers badly - that's a laugh. Workers here have rights from the day they begin work, unlike in the UK. I am fully aware of how things work, thank you very much. People in the UK seem to be very entitled in my opinion.

Because everyone that does work on a Bank Holiday is being given a day or time off with full pay and you are entitled to the same. Plenty of people have explained the reasoning clearly on this thread.

That you think it is ridiculous, makes me suspect even more that you really do not understand how things are worked out for part time workers in your country.

Anyway in this country (the UK) it is recognised that part time workers should not be treated less favourably than full time workers. So if FT workers get 10 paid days of leave per year for BHs, then the PT worker is entitled to a prorated number of paid days leave. Not ridiculous. It is how it is.

This thread is sad and ridiculous for many reasons!

That's not fair - could you change your day next week?

It's not grabby. It's been declared a bank holiday. I've had an extra day added to my bank holiday entitlement, I can either take it off on Monday ( which I will as the office is closed and the children are off), had I not worked Mondays I would have taken my bank holiday hours on another day.

It isn't "grabby" to want fair time off. The extra bank holiday should be treated the same as any other bank holiday, so part time workers should be able to claim pro rata time off (not a full day if they don't work full time).

Legally, PT staff are entitled to the same holiday pro rata as FT staff. So people who don't work on Mondays should get an extra pro rata entitlement.

Meanwhile, PT who do usually work Mondays are likely to lose some hours of annual leave in order to make up the difference between the full day and their pro rata entitlement.

It's not entitled, it's fair!

I'm expecting time off in lieu for Monday as it's not my normal working day. It's not a few hours to watch the funeral, it's an official bank holiday. Which means part timers who aren't on duty on Monday are entitled to the time back.

Absolutely people.shoild get a day off in lieu. At my work some people are having to work as there are some work that will be a nightmare to reschedule if they don't , they are absolutely being given a day off in lieu
Some of them are having to Scrabble to get others to cover their day as they have no childcare at such short notice and some colleagues have agreed , do you think those people shouldn't get a day off on lieu? I certainly do

Not grabby at all. It is a Bank Holiday. It was announced as such in the formal proclamation and should be treated as any other BH.

One of my team had already booked the day as leave. I've cancelled his leave so he gets the hours back as he will now be off anyway.

We are mostly remote working and nobody will be required too but I would expect anyone who chooses to work to get a day back in lieu.

How would this work.

20 hours per week Tues to Fri and don't work Monday.

How many hours would I be due back for the Monday bank holiday?

Is it 4 hours as that is what the per day hours would work out at if I worked 5 days and not 4 per week?

Part timers should not legally be treated any different. If a full timer or a Monday worker is getting a paid day's leave, all other staff who are PT or do not work Mondays should gain the same "perk".

It's a bank holiday so needs to be treated the same as all other bank holidays. Part-timers should get the equivalent pro-rata added to their leave entitlement to take on another day.
Otherwise part-timers who work Mondays, when most bank holidays fall, would get paid the same but do less work than part-timers who work other days instead.

I used to work Tuesday to Thursdays, I missed all the bank Holidays. I didn't care. Loved having 4 days off in a row.

I’m preparing to argue with HR today as they told me no time off in lieu. I’m owed a half day.
Not that it matters, but my employers choose my working days when I started with them.

It's pro-rata. For example, If your 20hrs are 50% of what a full timer works, then you get 50% of a full day (ie 4hrs leave if full time is 8hrs/day).

I bloody would.
If you are part time and work say Monday to Thur you are entitled to 4/5th of the salary as full timers.
If you dont either get paid or get a day back you are in effect working a day for no pay.
Why on earth should anybody do that?

In my work place the contract states thst should bank holidays mean that i work too few hours or days in a year, then the money will be taken out of my pay.

On that basis when bank holidas last year meant that I worked 2 days over i was sure as hell insisting on being paid those days or getting the time back.

Our company is giving all staff who take Monday off an extra days holiday.