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Ex wants to take DD away over my 50th birthday.

202 replies

jumpingbean1810 · 11/09/2022 19:12

It's my 50th next Feb half term. I planned to celebrate in uk with friends and family and then go away with DD (14) for remainder of week. I'm a single parent and she's my only child. Ex (married with 2 more children) wants to take them all skiing for the week. I've said I'm happy to cancel going away (nothing booked yet) but DD has said she really wants to be home on my actual bday (monday). I've suggested they therefore go for 5 days instead of 7 days so she can do both and isn't torn between my bday and skiing. He says he doesn't want to lose 2 days of skiing.

I don't want DD to feel torn so if he digs heels in should I encourage her to go skiing and accept she won't be there for 50th, or should I say, you go on your holiday and we'll go on ours and she can ski with you another time? (Which will cause explosion).

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VioletPickles · 13/09/2022 06:46

Jaaxe · 11/09/2022 22:00

I wouldn’t put her in the position to have to choose….tell her to go on the ski holiday and you’ll celebrate your birthday when she gets back. Who wants to miss out on a ski holiday?! She just feels bad and doesn’t want you on your own on your birthday

Agreed. Just say you’ll do something for the birthday at a later date.

Quincythequince · 13/09/2022 06:48

00100001 · 13/09/2022 06:34

Well, it could be any two events.

The child is having to choose from between her parents.

What if it was two different holidays?

She needs to chose then. If she can’t, resident parent should make the decision for her.

FrippEnos · 13/09/2022 06:55

Its not going to be long before your ex's time with DD gets even less.
What will you be saying to your DD when the talk is about the skiing holiday that she missed?
Or are the ex's family just not going to talk about it?

TwinkleChristmas · 13/09/2022 06:56

It’s unreasonable to ask him to change his holiday plans.

Your daughter will just have to pick. She either goes with him or stays and goes with you.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 13/09/2022 06:56

Him going Sun to Sun seems like the best compromise so she can at least go to the party, he could pick her up from the party at 10/11pm.

What happens usually for his birthdays? Would he want her there for his birthday?

Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim · 13/09/2022 06:57

00100001 · 13/09/2022 06:30

OK.

You choose between your parents and two special occasions that are at the same time...

I have. A majority of kids grew up with divorced parents. It's not that special and again she is 14. She just has to crack on. This is not the last time she is going to have to choose what she wants to do.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 13/09/2022 06:58

It’s unreasonable to ask him to change his holiday plans.

Did you miss that OP also has holiday plans and no one has booked anything yet?

rookiemere · 13/09/2022 07:03

We don't even know if the ski flights run Sunday- Sunday, or the Monday for that matter.

The DFs holiday plans seem a bit further advanced than OPs were - he has dates and a destination. What a bastard wanting to include his DD in the ski holiday.

justusandmoo · 13/09/2022 07:20

rookiemere · 13/09/2022 07:03

We don't even know if the ski flights run Sunday- Sunday, or the Monday for that matter.

The DFs holiday plans seem a bit further advanced than OPs were - he has dates and a destination. What a bastard wanting to include his DD in the ski holiday.

Lol. I love it when people don't actually dither reading the first post.

GeekyThings · 13/09/2022 07:35

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 13/09/2022 06:56

Him going Sun to Sun seems like the best compromise so she can at least go to the party, he could pick her up from the party at 10/11pm.

What happens usually for his birthdays? Would he want her there for his birthday?

This is an interesting point and gave me an idea - her mum should get her to go on the skiing holiday that dad has planned on mum's 50th; and then mum should book her 50th celebration holiday away when it's dad's birthday. That seems fair 😂

melj1213 · 14/09/2022 12:07

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 13/09/2022 06:39

But this isn't ANY birthday - it's her mums 50th.....

If it were me she can miss all the less special ones.

But OP needs to make a stand against her ex... It's ONE holiday in the what? 36 holidays someone would have til they're an adult (assuming large holiday and a shorter one annually).

I've lost count of the number of pals who have given into demanding exes - this has never been repaid with any flexibility from the men.

Why does the OP need to "make a stand"? It is just the reality of having separated parents (or even just being someone with a lot of friends and an active social life) that events will clash occasionally and you have to choose which one you will attend and then politely decline the other invite rather than try to attend both by asking the "host" to change their plans to accommodate you.

Her Ex is planning a family ski holiday in the only school holiday that is suitable (Feb half term) and has invited DD along. It's not his fault it clashes with the OPs birthday and he has no obligation to change his arrangements so DD doesn't have to choose which event to attend.

He is also taking his other children, and presumably his new partner. Why should everyone's holiday have to be cut short/dates changed/extra plans (eg picking DD up from the airport at a later arrival date, which will take more logistics as ski resorts tend to be at least an hour or two drive from the closest airport) to accommodate her wanting to do everything rather than her accepting that she can't be in two places at once?

I share custody of DD with my ExDH. We have been split up since she was tiny so it's pretty much all she remembers - there have been many times where events have clashed, sometimes we have agreed between the adults which event DD will go to due to logistics/priorities. For example if ExDH wants to go away for a random weekend but it's the same time as my sister's wedding, the wedding would take priority; if ExDH has been offered extra tickets for a concert by a friend but it's the same weekend I was planning to take her to a theme park the concert would take priority as tickets are already purchased etc and it is presented to DD as "Dad has tickets for you to go to X next weekend" with no mention at all of the other option. If we had discussed it already as a possible activity and DD said "What about Y?" Then I'd just say "Oh we can do that another weekend, unless you don't want to go to X"

Other times it's been a case we have told DD "Dad is doing X, Mum is doing Y, which do you want to do?" and then whichever option she has chosen we make happen, but we have never twisted ourselves in knots to make sure she never misses anything ever not have we ever made her feel guilty for choosing one parent over the other.

In this case I would have told DD "You can either go skiing at half term week with your dad and we'll do something fun for my birthday before/after the trip or you can stay here for my birthday and we'll go away for a few days somewhere in the UK. Which do you want to do?" The possibility of doing both by changing the times/dates would never have even entered her head as it isn't an option on offer.

TwinkleChristmas · 14/09/2022 12:11

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 13/09/2022 06:58

It’s unreasonable to ask him to change his holiday plans.

Did you miss that OP also has holiday plans and no one has booked anything yet?

No I didn’t miss it.

She doesn’t have to change hers either.

But the DD needs to decide which one she would rather go to. It’s the reality of broken families.

itsjustnotok · 14/09/2022 12:14

@Noteverybodylives i don’t think it’s weird to miss a birthday. Skiing is a great opportunity. If her DD wants to stay fair enough but if she wants to go she should be able to. Birthdays often fall on work days and school days which affect the ability to have parties etc. I’d pick a day to do something special.

KickUpAFusss · 14/09/2022 12:19

I don't think I could let my child miss out on a skiing holiday they may not get to do again so they could stay home and celebrate my birthday. It's lovely that she wants to be with you but one is more of an experience imo and one I wouldn't want her to miss for my sake.

If you were going on holiday at the same time then it would be reasonable to say no but it sounds like although this was the plan, you're happy to go another time and that's not actually the problem, the problem is celebrating your 50th on the actual day.

However if she's adamant she doesn't want to miss your birthday then she's old enough to choose herself. So long as she's not made to feel she's letting anyone down.

I personally do think it would be odd for a 14 year-old to miss out on a holiday so she could celebrate her mother's birthday and I'd be encouraging her to go.

LongLivedQueen · 14/09/2022 12:19

jumpingbean1810 · 11/09/2022 19:44

I don't want to ask her to choose, I think it puts unfair pressure on her as she wants to do both.

Well, she can't. She's old enough to understand that and make choices for herself.

KickUpAFusss · 14/09/2022 12:21

And no I don't think it's reasonable to expect another family to shorten their holiday to accommodate your daughter being with you on your birthday. It's not her birthday, it's yours and you're a grown up. You don't need your daughter there (I appreciate it's her who wants to stay not you necessarily).

CJsGoldfish · 15/09/2022 05:55

She's old enough to understand that and make choices for herself

It's these kind of situations where they can't make choices for themselves. Clearly OP has a preference, going so far as promising a different holiday if she misses the one with her dad.
Child is always going to say what she thinks her mum wants to hear despite it being 'her own choice' 🤷‍♀️

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 15/09/2022 06:01

Personally I think if you are doing all the donkey work with your child then it should be your decision when it's your birthday. I wonder whether he wants her there entertain the children?

MangosteenSoda · 15/09/2022 06:35

I don’t understand how you were both planning holidays with your DD for the same half term. Don’t you agree in advance (or at least before holiday planning starts) who has contact during which school holiday/how contact is split during longer holidays?

Personally, I don’t like skiing very much so I’d have preferred the family party plus other holiday. If your DD enjoys skiing then she should choose that because it’s much less flexible than most other holidays. Have an honest conversation and find out what she wants out of the viable options (joining the ski holiday later does not appear to be viable so she needs to accept that).

You could ask your ex if Sunday to Sunday flights are possible or consider moving your party to the Sunday of the following week so your DD will have returned (I would just carry on with the original schedule and celebrate with DD later).

User0610134057 · 15/09/2022 06:38

If you think that she’d like to go then personally I’d encourage her to go. It’s just a date after all and you can celebrate before/after with her

Sellorkeep · 15/09/2022 06:48

The logistics of joining a ski holiday are probably pretty difficult. After the flight she then had to find a way to get to the resort - this is often next to impossible mid week if you don’t have funds for a taxi.
Realistically it’s your option or his - not a mix. Someone has to make the call.

rookiemere · 15/09/2022 06:57

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 15/09/2022 06:01

Personally I think if you are doing all the donkey work with your child then it should be your decision when it's your birthday. I wonder whether he wants her there entertain the children?

OP has said her DD wants to go, it seems a bit of a reach to decide that the DF wants her there for childcare.

WillPowerLite · 15/09/2022 07:23

Your ex is being a shit. He could delay the holiday by a day to accommodate dd, but he won't. I can see why she wants to be at your party.

I love that you don't want her to have to choose. She is still young.

So... you could say that you have decided that she should go skiing. Your decision, not hers. Arrange a Facetime from the slopes on your birthday.

Then plan a special birthday celebration for the two of you after the ski trip.

melj1213 · 15/09/2022 09:13

Your ex is being a shit. He could delay the holiday by a day to accommodate dd, but he won't. I can see why she wants to be at your party.

How do you know that the Ex can just delay the holiday especially when it's the only available time to go in the school holidays?

Perhaps he or his new partner have other commitments meaning they can't change the dates or there are only flights on certain days - ski resorts don't tend to have daily flights so often, if you can't fly on Saturday then you can't fly out then till Tuesday/Wednesday. If they're not going through a package deal then arranging separate flights/transfers etc to a popular resort can be difficult especially on an "off" day; or maybe they're meeting other friends/family when they arrive or he just doesn't want to change his plans for his Ex's birthday?

Regardless of the reason, the Ex has no obligation to change his family holiday just to accommodate DD wanting to do both things and her mother not wanting to make her choose.

As a separated parent it is a simple fact that DD cannot attend every event and if ExDH an I have clashing events she has to make a choice, and we support whichever choice she makes. We cannot and will not twist ourselves in knots to try and make it so she doesn't have to miss something because then it sets up the expectation that we will do so every time even if it is massively inconvenient or impractical.

FairlySane · 18/02/2023 21:55

It’s your 50th YEAR jumpingbean. Organise treats throughout the year that you/your daughter and family/ friends can enjoy. Let your daughter know that the skiing trip isn’t detracting from your birthday in any way. Enjoy being 50 💐