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Is this rude of DD’s violin teacher?

344 replies

Mrspeanuts · 10/09/2022 15:31

DD (8) started violin lessons in school with her teacher who works for the local music service. She kindly sends regular updates on WhatsApp about progress and homework etc.

DD took her violin in to school on Wednesday this week (the day of her lesson) and the teacher wasn’t there. I sent an email via the music service asking why there was no lessons. I got what I thought was a rude response saying something along the lines of why would you think there was a lesson? Music tuition always starts back the second week in? I responded with ‘well I didn’t know that’ and the response was ‘well you do have my phone number, maybe should have checked first?’

she has since told me she won’t be posting any more updates on WhatsApp and any further correspondence from her will be via email through the music service.

have I upset her? I’m not sure if I’ve done anything wrong?

OP posts:
sanityisamyth · 10/09/2022 19:57

icelollycraving · 10/09/2022 19:56

Wrong thread 🤣

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edel2 · 10/09/2022 19:58

So rude and passive aggressive!!!!!!!!! Omg!

icelollycraving · 10/09/2022 19:58

🤣🤣 at least it wasn’t a sensitive thread. Ffs 🤣

carefullycourageous · 10/09/2022 20:01

Mrspeanuts · 10/09/2022 19:31

i would have been more careful with my words I think

Amazing!

HeadacheEarthquake · 10/09/2022 20:01

icelollycraving · 10/09/2022 19:55

Charlie from Busted.

Is the perfect music teacher to send a pass-ag WhatsApp to next

Frances658 · 10/09/2022 20:03

5zeds · 10/09/2022 19:53

I think you’ll find someone who is both good at communicating AND good at the violin, so honestly don’t worry if you don’t gel with this one. I suspect people will become more a anxious about getting their lessons in as many are now scrimping and scraping for their children to be able to continue. Music teachers will either learn to relieve that “value for money” anxiety or people will stop taking lessons.

There's nothing wrong with the teacher's communication! This was all on the OP, she won't be "gelling" with anyone that she speaks to so rudely. Noone needs to put up with that.

icelollycraving · 10/09/2022 20:04

HeadacheEarthquake · 10/09/2022 20:01

Is the perfect music teacher to send a pass-ag WhatsApp to next

🤣

HeadacheEarthquake · 10/09/2022 20:04

forrestgreen · 10/09/2022 19:36

Nope, just be nice and polite to everyone. You don't have to find out someone's social standing or musical prowess before you switch on your manners.

Exactly this

TheNefariousOrange · 10/09/2022 20:14

Frazzledmummy123 · 10/09/2022 19:22

I don't think she spoke to her or treated her like crap, she was abrupt and rude which she was wrong to do. Aside from asking her to communicate in future via the music service, the teacher's reply was fair enough. But to block her was unprofessional and thin skinned.

If op was shouting dogs abuse then 100% the teacher should block her, but over a rude message, nah that is ridiculous.

It wasn't just one message though was it? She sent several out of hours texts. She has a right to a homelife without being bombarded. And also, yes, if you send unprofessional messages to someone's personal phone, expect to get blocked and follow the formal contact procedures. She hasn't been blocked from contacting the teacher, she's just drawn a line and they have a wholly by the book relationship now.

PinkArt · 10/09/2022 20:25

i would have been more careful with my words I think
Ok I believed your rudeness up to this point, thanks to the many customer service jobs I did back in the day, but you took it too far with this line. Nice try though. So many people are as rude as you to 'the help' so it was a good topic to give it a go with.
On the off chance you are for real, 'don't be a dick' is life advice that you might find a good new motto. Not don't be a dick in case they are secretly as middle class as you, not don't be a dick in case you can get something from them, just don't be a dick.

Patienceisntvirtuous · 10/09/2022 20:48

This thread truly is the gift that keeps on giving Grin
I wondered why such a simply-titled thread had so many responses! Now I know!

'Music teacher is actually good at music shocker.'

'I'd have been more polite had I known she wasn't just a pleb who can play a bit of violin'.

'I'm allowed to be rude to someone I am the gentry paying the mere mortal who has to work doing something for me (DD)-she's not allowed to be rude back though!'

I've heard it all. Thanks for the laugh.

PenYGore · 10/09/2022 21:13

Is Bach difficult on violin? That’s what I’ve just looked at her playing- she sounds pretty good to be fair

OP, if she can play Bach only "pretty well" and is teaching the violin in a poxy state school, she's probably just a bit mediocre.

Do you honestly know so little about music? If so, why do you even want your daughter to learn an instrument at all?

Confused
TrashyPanda · 10/09/2022 21:19

Mrspeanuts · 10/09/2022 19:31

i would have been more careful with my words I think

Wow. How obnoxious.

OP - you need to stop thinking you are so superior. Put it this way - the Queen was always polite to everyone.

Everyone deserves courtesy and consideration. That’s really, really basic.

politeness costs nothing. Rudeness and stupid snobbery only reflects on you.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 10/09/2022 21:35

Sunnyqueen · 10/09/2022 19:39

Lawd... Everyone deserves common courtesy, that includes crap violin players too

I suppose so... but it's much harder to listen to than crap woodwind or brass. Grin

OP, I'm a bit surprised you just assumed her music lessons would be on the same day as before anyway. They might be, but when it's a new school year the timetable often changes. I'd have probably checked before sending her in with the violin.

Patienceisntvirtuous · 10/09/2022 21:36

TrashyPanda · 10/09/2022 21:19

Wow. How obnoxious.

OP - you need to stop thinking you are so superior. Put it this way - the Queen was always polite to everyone.

Everyone deserves courtesy and consideration. That’s really, really basic.

politeness costs nothing. Rudeness and stupid snobbery only reflects on you.

I thought this too. Queen Victoria famously had impeccible manners even with beggars and the like. Very classless OP.

5zeds · 10/09/2022 21:46

There's nothing wrong with the teacher's communication! This was all on the OP, she won't be "gelling" with anyone that she speaks to so rudely. Noone needs to put up with that. I disagree that the music teacher responded appropriately at all. If she communicated adequately the OP would know when the lesson was and where that information could be found and from who. She hasn’t “put up” with anything, she bit back rather than doing her job, why? A dangerously rude exclamation mark????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ridiculous

SianNotAMan · 10/09/2022 21:49

Mrspeanuts · 10/09/2022 19:31

i would have been more careful with my words I think

Then you are even worse than your previous posts suggest.

Frances658 · 10/09/2022 21:53

Mrspeanuts · 10/09/2022 15:38

I wrote ‘DD informed me there was no lesson Wednesday, I would appreciate it if you let me know any changes to the schedule!’

Any sentence that includes “I would appreciate it if….” is antagonistic. It doesn’t need to exclamation mark to be rude.

Frances658 · 10/09/2022 21:55

Mrspeanuts · 10/09/2022 17:58

Forgot to add I then responded with ‘well I didn’t know that’ after the first message

“Well I didn’t know that” was also very rude. I’m surprised that’s not obviously rude to everyone tbh.

Frances658 · 10/09/2022 21:56

The exclamation marks are not the issue. The words are the issue.

SianNotAMan · 10/09/2022 21:59

Mrspeanuts · 10/09/2022 19:31

i would have been more careful with my words I think

OK, OP, well done, you got me.

I’ve some senior staff in Singapore, and you captured well the stereotypical entitlement and class-prejudice that comes from those who believe they are from a “good” family.

More fool me…

TwinkleChristmas · 10/09/2022 22:01

You were bloody rude. All your messages were rude.

she was nothing but polite and clearly doesn’t want to deal with someone like you.

TwinkleChristmas · 10/09/2022 22:03

Frazzledmummy123 · 10/09/2022 19:22

I don't think she spoke to her or treated her like crap, she was abrupt and rude which she was wrong to do. Aside from asking her to communicate in future via the music service, the teacher's reply was fair enough. But to block her was unprofessional and thin skinned.

If op was shouting dogs abuse then 100% the teacher should block her, but over a rude message, nah that is ridiculous.

She can block whoever she wants. It’s not thin skinned to not put up with peoples shit behaviour when they don’t have to.

AlrightAlrightAlrightMatthewMcConaughey · 10/09/2022 22:03

Mrspeanuts · 10/09/2022 19:31

i would have been more careful with my words I think

This is really sad.

It is a real eye opener into your character, as a person.

    • You obviously knew you were being rude as you acknowledge you were not careful with your words
    • You thought she was less accomplished, so wasn't worth as much courtesy

Many professional musicians teach in schools. These are the types of people you WANT teaching your kids.

You need to apologise

SheSaidHummingbird · 10/09/2022 22:04

All your communication would've come across as impolite (whether or not you intended it to). All of her responses were professional and not emotive. She might unblock you in a few days, don't hound her. Give her time and space before trying to contact her again.

It's a shame that knowing a person's eminence or accomplishments affects the way you treat them. Everyone deserves to be treated with kindness and respect,