I like Charles.

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He's into environmental issues, wants a slimmed down monarchy, embraces multiculturalism and his speech was warm and heartfelt.
He shook hands with the crowds outside the palace with genuine emotion.
I am not sure how i feel about how he treated Diana but he should always have married Camilla.

If it'd been me I'd have sat on my throne til they found a proper sized table. It was ridiculous. And even after he told them he wasn't happy, they still didn't clear it properly. Kings shouldn't have to put up with that shit.
I often wondered why the queen casually called in on the staff while they were setting up rooms. Now we know. She'd learnt they were useless unless she oversaw them. 👑

I was watching the event and cringed when he flapped to get the inkwell removed.
I have no way of knowing if this shows him to be habitually arrogant or just highly anxious at that moment.
The table layout was definitely ill thought out.

No @SoupDragon

I was referring g to another poster who said they didn't notice anything

I've heard that the BBC edited it - I said I dont know about that as I didn't watch the bbc version .

The whole thing is on Twitter .
Camilla's reaction is priceless . She sees something even if posters on here don't !
She looked panicked

When you take things in isolation it's easy to excuse it. When you look at it as a whole it was he was angry and petulant, he went from zero to angry in a few moments in front of the whole world. His face, body language and quick flapping of the hands. If he had been smiling and gently moved it to onside then ok. I was watching it live and I noticed it immediately, I was so surprised rewound it turned check what I'd just seen was real.

Maybe Camilla feared the ink being spilled all over the documents

Its sounds unduly stressful to me - and not very well thought out

I don’t blame the Queen for checking stuff beforehand

@LosingTheWill2022

I dont see how feeling anxious ( after 73 years 'training' for the role?) means it's fine to be rude

@MarshaBradyo
Have you seen the full video?

@Novella4 I did not say it was fine.
I said it's impossible to know if it is evidence of habitual rudeness.
Just because he's been in training for 73 years it doesn't mean he wasn't anxious in this entirely unprecedented situation.
I noted the behaviour but don't believe you can make sweeping judgements on one example.

Most people think it was very revealing - the anger flashed up so quickly .

And surely with the audience in room and others watching at home he'd be extra careful

I wonder if anyone has been brave enough to tell him how badly it's being received ..

I loathe and despise the man and think he will make a terrible Head of State. I know lots of people who feel the same.

Of course many people disagree with us. I know that; I wonder if there are more that want him as Head of State, or more like me. What to do? Bit of a problem, huh?

Maybe ... just maybe, we could arrange together and have a vote to see where the majority lies on this. I would certainly swallow hard and accept a majority vote if it went against me.

I know some other countries do this with their Head of State. They call it an 'election'. Strange idea, I know, but does anyone think there's anything in it?

I agree, it's all got a bit exaggerated.

Nice positive royal related thread, for a change. I like him and his speech was exceptionally poignant and so well delivered.

I wonder if anyone has been brave enough to tell him how badly it's being received
This, like so much else, we will never know.@Novella4

It was the teeth baring that did it for me.

He was seething and had clearly forgotten the presence of the cameras.

I don’t know a thing about him. His sons seem to like him. While Diana seemed scared of him at the end, from the contents of her interviews and letters.

A king with a significant interest in environmental issues and a Queen consort who has campaigned to end VAWG for some time. I not a fan of the monarchy as an institution, but we could have done a lot worse.

Plus he picked me up as a toddler when he visited my nursery 😁

Why should anyone care if he's nice or likable? As long as he can cut a ribbon and sit there reading speeches other people have written for him, then that's all that's required (and even that is ridiculous when you think about it).

His environmental interests are genuine? Does he writhe with guilt about getting private jets everywhere? I doubt it. Will he ensure that all the royal cars are eco-friendly? Etc etc.

Air travel rather comes with the territory of being a World Head of State.

His own car has been converted to run off bio-fuel so it's perfectly plausible that he will ensure the royal cars are eco-friendly.

@MongoOnlyPawnInGameOfLife
It's not whether he is likeable or not

It was the rudeness and the dismissive way he treated the assistant

People are going to bow to that?

@MongoOnlyPawnInGameOfLife
Yes re the speeches - it would be a bit weird if his speech the other night wasn't perfect !
They'd rewritten it endlessly over the last 20 years or more I'm sure .
And directed him ' pause for effect here'

It was the contrast with his behaviour the next day that was revealing

It was the rudeness and the dismissive way he treated the assistant

Yes.

And the way it seemed to be a default reaction.

0 to full on rage in an instant.

@cigiwi
Probably a referendum at this time might not be the best idea, what given the weeks of wall to wall media coverage we have just begun of:

“the Monarchy/Queen (who Truss just called the greatest leader in history) built modern Britain and is the greatest thing about this country and you lot better appreciate it.”

I used to be fervently anti- monarchy, but now I’d don’t really care. In the short term people will move on and Charles will do his job, but in the mid/long term Britain will become even more insecure and erratic in its decisions, forever stuck with one foot in the past. Looking back with envy to the days of Empire/Churchill/Elizabeth II. Looking back to the days when there was a fixed shared point in the national imagination, which the passing of the Queen marks the end of.

There’s very little that joins modern Britain together now, and the monarchy will slowly but surely slide into irrelevance/a bit of light soap opera as is its place in other European nations with a constitutional monarchy. A referendum is unnecessary. The Queen’s reign began when people believed the royals were superior, flawless, and ordained by God. She was never allowed to be photographed pregnant for this reason. Charles is just an old bloke, certainly no better than you I, probably more flawed than most even. No referendum needed.

@CathyorClaire
He’d been dreaming of this moment for 40+ years, which perhaps made his anger at the pen more understandable, though a bit tragic at the same time.

People shouldn't be bowing to anyone, regardless of whether they are nice or unpleasant.

Yes of course . I agree .

Not just that but the walking into a from first , all the address rules , dont speak unless spoken to etc

I do wonder about people who love the deference