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I like Charles.

263 replies

malificent7 · 10/09/2022 10:04

He's into environmental issues, wants a slimmed down monarchy, embraces multiculturalism and his speech was warm and heartfelt.
He shook hands with the crowds outside the palace with genuine emotion.
I am not sure how i feel about how he treated Diana but he should always have married Camilla.

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Drivebye · 10/09/2022 10:31

I feel for him at this sad time but I'm not convinced. He showed us the sort of person he was by carrying on with Camilla and still marrying Diana.

He speaks a lot about environmental issues but his actions don't match the words. A lot of this 'slimming down' is because they know people won't stomach all the cost and hangers on. People who cost a lot to protected and are paid for doing nothing or very little. The recent changes are all about protecting and maintaining the monarchy and all the privilege that confers.

It wonder how long it will take for the commonwealth counties to break ties.

sst1234 · 10/09/2022 10:32

He needs to stay out of politics. It’s not his job to get involved in any of that.

Harriet0101 · 10/09/2022 10:33

I didn't use to like him after all that happened with Diana and Camilla. He always came across as a bit of a fool in his younger days. However, I hope he has changed, after all it is 30 years later. So I am willing to give him a chance. He knows he has a lot to live up to following on from the queen and he has waited for this for 70 years so I think he will take it seriously. It will be great if he does more for the environment and slims down the monarchy.

Oysterbabe · 10/09/2022 10:34

I like him too, I think he'll be a wonderful king. I think he'll be well up for doing stuff like the James Bond and Paddington stuff too.

GhostFromTheOtherSide · 10/09/2022 10:34

Even if a speech is pre written you still have to be able to read it with sincerity. That’s not something which can be made to happen. If the sincerity isn’t there then it will come across in the way you read the speech.

As for Diana, I can’t get worked up about something which happened 30 years ago. They should never have been married, he was meant to be with Camilla, and they both knew it was essentially an arranged marriage. She came fro that kind of background, there’s no way she didn’t know.

Besides which it was 30 years ago. Life’s too short to stay bitter about something which didn’t even happen to you.

Octomore · 10/09/2022 10:36

He has literally been coached to give speeches with sincerity from early childhood.

This really isnt a specific criticism of Charles, but I wouldn't read anything much into the fact that he can give a good, heart-warming speech.

Afterfire · 10/09/2022 10:37

Drivebye · 10/09/2022 10:31

I feel for him at this sad time but I'm not convinced. He showed us the sort of person he was by carrying on with Camilla and still marrying Diana.

He speaks a lot about environmental issues but his actions don't match the words. A lot of this 'slimming down' is because they know people won't stomach all the cost and hangers on. People who cost a lot to protected and are paid for doing nothing or very little. The recent changes are all about protecting and maintaining the monarchy and all the privilege that confers.

It wonder how long it will take for the commonwealth counties to break ties.

Both he and Diana were unfaithful but it’s amazing how everyone forgives Diana and adores / adored her and yet he was unfaithful with the one woman he’s loved his whole entire life and went on to marry and has been married to since and he’s a monster.

I can’t say I am particularly a fan of Charles as a person but there is something very unfair in peoples judgement of him for this.

I think the 70 odd year old King Charles we have now is a very different man to the Charles of the Charles and Diana era.

Welshrarebitontoast · 10/09/2022 10:37

Me too.

If he’d just been allowed to choose his own wife history would be very different and I think many more people would hold him in greater affection.

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 10/09/2022 10:38

eldora · 10/09/2022 10:23

Yep, down to the extra long eye contact with the camera at the end. All carefully orchestrated. People are gullible, though.

It wasn’t about the words alone, it was the delivery. And if you think he’s such a consummate actor who could fake the very genuine upset he was clearly feeling then I feel sorry for you.

Octomore · 10/09/2022 10:39

Octomore · 10/09/2022 10:36

He has literally been coached to give speeches with sincerity from early childhood.

This really isnt a specific criticism of Charles, but I wouldn't read anything much into the fact that he can give a good, heart-warming speech.

Although, in fairness, being able to give a good speech is the main qualification (other than DNA 😂) for the job he is now doing, so it does at least mean he's got the basic skill required for the role.

I am a republican, but don't bear him any ill will as an individual. I hope he does well.

And I don't blame him for the car crash of a marriage. He never wanted it in the first place, and Diana was no angel herself.

Octomore · 10/09/2022 10:41

I don't think anyone is saying he is faking his grief for his mother. Just that his speech was very carefully planned, scripted and rehearsed, which is exactly what you'd expect.

BigBearLittleBear · 10/09/2022 10:43

I like him too. I also like Camilla.

Drivebye · 10/09/2022 10:47

This thread is about Charles, not what people think about Diana. There is no doubt that he must have been under pressure however he clearly treated Diana very badly from the outset for example the 'whatever that means' about being in love.

I've just been watching the accession and noticed how impatient he appeared when there were items on the desk in his way when he went to sit down. I'm just not convinced about him or William (who looked bored through the whole ceremony), there's an arrogance about both of them imo.

Singleandproud · 10/09/2022 10:48

I like him, once he matured from playboy Prince hes done a lot of good work for charities and raising awareness for the Environment.

I don't blame him for the Diana situation, it was basically an arranged marriage and the fault lies solely on both families. Both of them cheated and her death was terrible and handled poorly. It does however, seem to be a lesson they learnt from.

I also never blamed the family for staying together outside of London when she died, I actually think they did the right thing staying with the Princes and supporting them, it was a family moment. They could have put a notice out saying the Queen would return in X number of days. But I can't see a grandmother consoling her grandchildren as a poor choice.

FlowersareEverything · 10/09/2022 10:49

I like him very much and I
also like The Queen Consort. I think they will both be excellent in their roles.

HappyHappyHermit · 10/09/2022 10:49

I like him too and think he will be a good King.

Trudij123 · 10/09/2022 10:50

Afterfire · 10/09/2022 10:37

Both he and Diana were unfaithful but it’s amazing how everyone forgives Diana and adores / adored her and yet he was unfaithful with the one woman he’s loved his whole entire life and went on to marry and has been married to since and he’s a monster.

I can’t say I am particularly a fan of Charles as a person but there is something very unfair in peoples judgement of him for this.

I think the 70 odd year old King Charles we have now is a very different man to the Charles of the Charles and Diana era.

This. Add her courting the media to portray her as the victim and it’s really unfair.

mamabear715 · 10/09/2022 10:51

I agree with you @malificent7

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · 10/09/2022 10:52

He's open, emotionally open.

We can relate to him..

He's not closed off he wears his heart on his sleeve.
Unfortunately the poor man doesn't have much dignity on his personal life left.
He's faced and face's every single embarrassing things anyone could!

I like him.

I think he will be a popular king and Camilla popular as his consort.

For me I hope he strains every sinew in his body to make peace with Harry and Megan and I hope he rolls out every carpet, honour and what ever for his son and grandchildren.
To be rejected as is theirs to reject but I hope he uses his position to do what he can to make.ammeds .

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 10/09/2022 10:53

Singleandproud · 10/09/2022 10:48

I like him, once he matured from playboy Prince hes done a lot of good work for charities and raising awareness for the Environment.

I don't blame him for the Diana situation, it was basically an arranged marriage and the fault lies solely on both families. Both of them cheated and her death was terrible and handled poorly. It does however, seem to be a lesson they learnt from.

I also never blamed the family for staying together outside of London when she died, I actually think they did the right thing staying with the Princes and supporting them, it was a family moment. They could have put a notice out saying the Queen would return in X number of days. But I can't see a grandmother consoling her grandchildren as a poor choice.

I have to agree with you. This was fundamentally a bad marriage, they happen multiple times a day and I don’t think either party behaved well , I don’t think it should shape the public view of him forever more.

Petronus · 10/09/2022 10:53

I do. I think he was quite prescient with regards to environmental issues. He used to be a bit of a joke in regards to this, when actually now everyone has caught up with his thinking. The Princes Trust has also been genuinely life changing for some people.

Mammyloveswine · 10/09/2022 10:54

I really like Charles! I met him when I was at college and he was very funny! We asked him something like "can we marry your sons?" And laughed and said something like "take your pick" Grin.

I think he'll be a good King and I think now is a good time for William to take on the Prince of Wales role and prepare for his own ascent to the Crown.

Justkidding55 · 10/09/2022 10:56

Me too. I liked diana but she was unsuited to him and he loved camilla. She has tried so hard to prove herself and through all the hate she’s had has patiently waited and tried to win the public trust. Charles has faced a lot of hate too and I think he does have a lot to offer.

SandAndSea · 10/09/2022 10:56

Are you all forgetting his paedophile friends?

Hbh17 · 10/09/2022 10:57

He will be a wonderful king.

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