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How did she decline so rapidly?

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Maggiethecat · 09/09/2022 09:19

Not really trying to know the cause of the queen’s death although I have wondered but can’t get my head round that picture of her greeting Liz Truss to her death 2 days later.

Initially thought it must have been something acute like a stroke or heart but then it seems like she has been ailing (haven’t really taken note, other than palace statements of mobility issues).

Perhaps she had been bedridden for weeks and made a huge effort on Monday to fulfil her last duty but I’m inclined to think had that been the case more of her family would have been near.

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newgraduate2022 · 09/09/2022 10:06

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sunglassesonthetable · 09/09/2022 10:07

*this thread is in really bad taste.

Fact is that we all die, and there doesn’t have to be a reason. There comes a point when your life just ends because you’ve reached the end of it.

My great granny just sat down in her chair one night, gave a sigh and was gone. No cause, no illness, no sudden stroke or whatever, her heart just stopped beating.

The queen was 96. She had reached the end of her life.

But all the talk of how she “definitely had cancer” and “wanted to get shot of Boris” is really unnecessary.*

I think we can talk about death. Generally I think we need to talk about death. The Queen's death is part of that. Lots of pronouncements from you Ghost.

Fiwere25again · 09/09/2022 10:08

Teddletime · 09/09/2022 09:28

Sorry to hijack your thread but I wanted to ask about the corgis. She bought a new puppy fairly recently I think. Last couple of years. Who will take them?

This is a joke, yes?

newgraduate2022 · 09/09/2022 10:09

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MaChienEstUnDick · 09/09/2022 10:10

Badger1970 · 09/09/2022 09:52

Purpura under the skin is so common in elderly people, my Dad's arms are covered in it and he's 82. Doesn't mean a cannula was there at all.

I used to work in a nursing home, and we'd often tuck people into bed who were perfectly themselves and then find them gasping for breath in the morning... dead by lunchtime. At that point, families were called in pronto. Perfectly normal and actually a lovely way to go than weeks of slow organ failure.

That is exactly how MIL went. She was showing signs of dementia and I was glad for her and DH/BIL/SIL that that is how it ended.

PurpleDaisies · 09/09/2022 10:10

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What makes you think anyone here has that information?

jennakong · 09/09/2022 10:10

Mumsnet so weird sometimes. Why would the Queen' s corgis be put down? What vet would put healthy dogs down because their owner had died? And do people really think there would be any difficulty in rehoming the Queen's corgis, if it ever came to that? The thought of them languishing unwanted in Battersea Dogs Home is quite grimly hilarious.

Fififelix · 09/09/2022 10:10

As the cause of death when you are very old you can't fight off infections very well even a UTI can cause death very quickly. It might have been a stroke I've found someone dead in the morning and he was fine 2 hours before on the last checks not very old either. They had early onset dementia and I'm glad that happened as he was terrified of getting worse.

GhostFromTheOtherSide · 09/09/2022 10:10

I think we can talk about death. Generally I think we need to talk about death. The Queen's death is part of that. Lots of pronouncements from you Ghost. it’s not just the talking about death though is it?

It’s the talk from posters who claim to know how she died, that the bruising must have meant x or y, that she must have been holding on to see off Boris (pure wishful thinking and unlikely) which is in bad taste.

People die. Every last one of us is going to die, and perhaps the one thing that can come out of this discussion is that death is in fact normal and doesn’t need to be analysed when the person has reached the end of their natural life.

maranella · 09/09/2022 10:10

I read in one of the papers yesterday that Charles had been visiting her every morning recently, which is highly unusual, so it would seem that within the family her death was not entirely unexpected. So it sounds like she had been ailing these past few weeks, but when she felt well enough she was still enjoying her usual summer holiday pursuits - walks, picnics and entertaining family and friends.

Given all that, I'm really surprised that Harry didn't fly over a few days earlier than planned, bring the DC and visit her at Balmoral, since they were invited. I think it speaks volumes about how little he talks to his family these days that he apparently didn't know how unwell she was, as it seems Charles and Anne were well aware.

Rightthirdtime · 09/09/2022 10:10

Well that’d certainly be true if you got hit by a bus.

Thenightwemet16 · 09/09/2022 10:11

Adversity · 09/09/2022 09:34

My Uncle was in his late eighties when he died. He had been a Farmer all his life. He had been shopping, got out of his car on the drive and dropped dead from a massive heart attack, no illness whatsoever. My Grandmother died like that as well. About two weeks before she died she had gone with my cousin through the big municipal cemetery, they missed the gate locking time and she climbed up and over the seven foot high gate with the immortal words ‘Their not getting me yet’. She was close to 80 and had been in the WAAF, the Women’s Auxiliary Airforce. She is buried in that cemetery with the WAAF insignia on her gravestone.

Similar to my grandmother who was 91 when she died. She was completely independent and had driven to Sainsburys the day before (which had involved lifting the heavy garage door to get the car out of the garage!). Was found on the kitchen floor having had a massive heart attack.

Compared to my other grandmother, who, whilst a month away from her 99th birthday and only died because she contracted Covid, had been in a care home for the previous 10 years (and had had carers at home before that), a lot of the time bedridden and living in her memories 😢

Sporty2022 · 09/09/2022 10:12

Thinking back to yesterday, when the news announced that the Queen was under medical supervision and the rest of the royals were racing up to Balmoral, it should have been expected.
Even still I kind of thought she go on a few more years

Fififelix · 09/09/2022 10:13

I wonder if the doctor had something to ease her along George V had the same.

BadNomad · 09/09/2022 10:13

She's had bruised hands since 2019. It happens with old age (thinning skin, easily knocked), circulation problems, blood thinning meds etc. It was nothing new.

housemaus · 09/09/2022 10:14

My MIL died of cancer. She was talking to us (clearly tired, but talking and sitting in the garden fairly 'normally') on the Tuesday and 5 hours later she was unconscious, she died about 24 hours after that. It happens.

Floydthebarber · 09/09/2022 10:15

Yeah, she was really, really old. It happens. I always imagine it being the nicest way to die: quickly, peacefully at home because your body has reached the end of it's life.

10HailMarys · 09/09/2022 10:17

She was 96. Not everyone has a lingering decline. Two of my grandparents went in much the same way - a bit wobbly on their feet in their final years, no other issues, died pretty suddenly. My nan was lively, chatty and normal on the day she died. She just went to bed that night as usual and died.

GhostFromTheOtherSide · 09/09/2022 10:17

If I am ever diagnosed with a degenerative illness I will be off to Switzerland while I still have capacity.

If that’s not possible and assisted dying is not legal here by then I will find another way. But there is absolutely no way on this earth I will be dying a long protracted death.

newgraduate2022 · 09/09/2022 10:21

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What an utterly bizarre thing to say.

ChipsRoastOrBoiled · 09/09/2022 10:22

I believe HM would have been willing herself on to make it to her Platinum Jubilee, then not so long after that Johnson resigned and appointing the next PM gave her a bit more to push on for. Lesd us to, hopefully, stable and less turbulent times.

BashfulClam · 09/09/2022 10:23

I could see it coming as she had ‘shrunk’ which always seems to happen at the end. 96 and still having all your faculties is impressive.

newgraduate2022 · 09/09/2022 10:23

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HairyMothballs · 09/09/2022 10:23

She was 96. At that age, a person can decline and die very suddenly. It isn't unusual.