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How did she decline so rapidly?

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Maggiethecat · 09/09/2022 09:19

Not really trying to know the cause of the queen’s death although I have wondered but can’t get my head round that picture of her greeting Liz Truss to her death 2 days later.

Initially thought it must have been something acute like a stroke or heart but then it seems like she has been ailing (haven’t really taken note, other than palace statements of mobility issues).

Perhaps she had been bedridden for weeks and made a huge effort on Monday to fulfil her last duty but I’m inclined to think had that been the case more of her family would have been near.

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sunglassesonthetable · 09/09/2022 10:24

People die. Every last one of us is going to die, and perhaps the one thing that can come out of this discussion is that death is in fact normal and doesn’t need to be analysed when the person has reached the end of their natural life.

I think the comments from people who have been around death a lot are really really interesting and insightful. I was bereaved last year and present at the death of my loved one and can not know enough about it now tbh. However weird it seems. I wish I had known more at the time.

I don't think this thread is in in bad taste.

There are some strange comments where posters 'know' the Queen's medical condition but hey Mumsnet.

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WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 09/09/2022 10:24

I cannot get my head round that either. DH keeps saying 'well she had a large bruise on her hand the other day, so I am not surprised she passed 2-3 days later as she was clearly unwell...' and I am like Confused

At no point did he say (after the Queen was pictured with Liz Truss at the beginning of the week,) 'ooh I reckon she will be dead by Thursday!' Personally, I thought she had just had a canula in her hand. And I don't believe for a second, that he - or anyone else - knew she was going to die yesterday (except obviously her very close family and inner circle at her home in Balmoral.)

Also, she has looked a little unwell at some points over the past year, and rather frail most of the time since her husband died in early 2021. But, to me, when she met with Liz Truss, she looked no worse than she has looked for the past 12 months or so. She looked fairly OK. So yeah, it was a shock to the vast majority of people I believe, that she died yesterday,

girlmom21 · 09/09/2022 10:24

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You can live a perfectly healthy lifestyle and die at 50 or drink and smoke every day of your life and make it to 100. It's just luck.

PurpleDaisies · 09/09/2022 10:24

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Sorry you lost your sister.

You genuinely didn’t know smoking/drinking excessively shortens your life before that happened?!

Carpy88999 · 09/09/2022 10:25

randomsabreuse · 09/09/2022 09:26

Set a mental deadline (see off Boris for want of a better phrase) then thought "job done". It's not uncommon for people in failing health to hold on against the odds for a much anticipated event (Christmas, Wedding) then die shortly after.

I can imagine the Queen not really wanting Boris to do all the formal bits around her funeral and probably wanted to make very sure that the handover happened. Obviously I don't know this but seems highly possible.

Give it a rest.

Kitchenlight · 09/09/2022 10:25

Adversity · 09/09/2022 09:34

My Uncle was in his late eighties when he died. He had been a Farmer all his life. He had been shopping, got out of his car on the drive and dropped dead from a massive heart attack, no illness whatsoever. My Grandmother died like that as well. About two weeks before she died she had gone with my cousin through the big municipal cemetery, they missed the gate locking time and she climbed up and over the seven foot high gate with the immortal words ‘Their not getting me yet’. She was close to 80 and had been in the WAAF, the Women’s Auxiliary Airforce. She is buried in that cemetery with the WAAF insignia on her gravestone.

What a spirited grandmother!

newgraduate2022 · 09/09/2022 10:26

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Saynotothefishtank · 09/09/2022 10:26

randomsabreuse · 09/09/2022 09:26

Set a mental deadline (see off Boris for want of a better phrase) then thought "job done". It's not uncommon for people in failing health to hold on against the odds for a much anticipated event (Christmas, Wedding) then die shortly after.

I can imagine the Queen not really wanting Boris to do all the formal bits around her funeral and probably wanted to make very sure that the handover happened. Obviously I don't know this but seems highly possible.

This is very common.

Her husband died last year, ordinarily a surviving spouse that age would then decline quite fast, but she held on for the Jubilee and then to appoint the incoming Prime Minister. Then she stopped holding on.

123ROLO · 09/09/2022 10:27

My grandma was able to celebrate her 90th birthday, she sat the majority of the time, was looking quite frail but was still able to have a good meal, socialise and have a laugh.

She had been in and out of hospital a few months, she had heart issues and lots of abdo swelling which they thought was down to a malignancy but never found route cause.

5 days after her birthday she quickly took a turn, and passed away peacefully just hours later.

What happened to my grandma sounds quite like what happened to the queen. My grandma was unwell and ultimately dying for several months, but was still able to function and be independent right until the very end.

PurpleDaisies · 09/09/2022 10:27

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You learned from the death of Princess Margaret that smoking and drinking excessively shortens your life.

This is so weird.

Spidey66 · 09/09/2022 10:28

mountainsunsets · 09/09/2022 09:24

She was 96 - in the kindest way, it doesn't take much.

This.

She was 96 ffs!

dottiedodah · 09/09/2022 10:29

My great Uncle died on Christmas day age 98! As described by Great Aunt,"Well dear he had all his Christmas dinner,mince pies as well.Turkey Sandwiches and Trifle for Supper .Lay down in bed, gave a little squeak and that was it" What a way to go!

Pinkpeony2 · 09/09/2022 10:29

GhostFromTheOtherSide · 09/09/2022 09:45

this thread is in really bad taste.

Fact is that we all die, and there doesn’t have to be a reason. There comes a point when your life just ends because you’ve reached the end of it.

My great granny just sat down in her chair one night, gave a sigh and was gone. No cause, no illness, no sudden stroke or whatever, her heart just stopped beating.

The queen was 96. She had reached the end of her life.

But all the talk of how she “definitely had cancer” and “wanted to get shot of Boris” is really unnecessary.

I’m sorry but you are totally wrong.
No one dies of old age or ‘it’s their time’
There is always a medical reason for death and for many, it helps process and come to terms with the persons passing.
My own mother died fairly young in a tragic accident as we will never know why or what happened to her medically to cause the accident. It hurts.

NanaNelly · 09/09/2022 10:29

Adversity · 09/09/2022 09:34

My Uncle was in his late eighties when he died. He had been a Farmer all his life. He had been shopping, got out of his car on the drive and dropped dead from a massive heart attack, no illness whatsoever. My Grandmother died like that as well. About two weeks before she died she had gone with my cousin through the big municipal cemetery, they missed the gate locking time and she climbed up and over the seven foot high gate with the immortal words ‘Their not getting me yet’. She was close to 80 and had been in the WAAF, the Women’s Auxiliary Airforce. She is buried in that cemetery with the WAAF insignia on her gravestone.

A lovely story. 💐

LovedFedAndNoonesDead · 09/09/2022 10:30

Teddletime · 09/09/2022 09:28

Sorry to hijack your thread but I wanted to ask about the corgis. She bought a new puppy fairly recently I think. Last couple of years. Who will take them?

Wonder if it will be Anne - she has pretty much been by her mother’s side over the past year and a half (often attending what few public appearances HM did). Whoever it is will be as moving towards them as she was.

TheClockEnd · 09/09/2022 10:30

My DH had terminal cancer and DS and I nursed him at home. It was DS’s 15th birthday on the Friday and DH made super human effort to be washed, clean clothes on & sitting up, sharing bit of cake with him… but goodness me, the decline as the day ended was so rapid! Spent most of the Saturday asleep and passed away in his sleep at 2-30am Sunday morning.
It often seems to happen this way, the hanging on against all the odds, for certain events.
RIP HM the Queen.

LovedFedAndNoonesDead · 09/09/2022 10:30

*loving not moving

Allgoodthings1 · 09/09/2022 10:30

Last Friday my boyfriend came home from work and told me how he’d heard through a line of people that there was a red alert for the queen’s death. She had chosen to stay in Scotland and won’t be going back to London as she wants to die in Scotland. The plan was for her to be driven back to London and each police force will hand over to the next on the way down. I dismissed all of this as nonsense when I heard it, especially when I saw the picture of her smiling earlier in the week.

Now a week on from that conversation, she’s dead ☹️ It does seem to have been very quick but people around her were definitely aware it was coming

Fraaahnces · 09/09/2022 10:31

Because she was nearly a century old. She could have picked up any kind of infection or simply run out of batteries.

ShepherdMoons · 09/09/2022 10:31

She'd been declining a long time and it's a miracle she made it through the Jubilee imo. I think she may have died in the night and they chose to tell the public later to give family some time to make their peace with it.

jennakong · 09/09/2022 10:31

PurpleDaisies · 09/09/2022 10:24

Sorry you lost your sister.

You genuinely didn’t know smoking/drinking excessively shortens your life before that happened?!

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Poster is talking about the Queen's sister, Princess Margaret, presumably, unless she has made a typo. Margaret drank and smoked heavily and died at 72 ,in 2002.

sunglassesonthetable · 09/09/2022 10:31

My great Uncle died on Christmas day age 98! As described by Great Aunt,"Well dear he had all his Christmas dinner,mince pies as well.Turkey Sandwiches and Trifle for Supper .Lay down in bed, gave a little squeak and that was it" What a way to go!

Lovely 😊

OddsandSods · 09/09/2022 10:32

She was 96. People lucky enough to get to that age tend to go downhill quite rapidly. Lucky them.

Poppyseed14 · 09/09/2022 10:32

Lady C reported yesterday on her YouTube channel (way before the official announcement) that she had already passed and that she had bone cancer 😔

PurpleDaisies · 09/09/2022 10:32

jennakong · 09/09/2022 10:31

Poster is talking about the Queen's sister, Princess Margaret, presumably, unless she has made a typo. Margaret drank and smoked heavily and died at 72 ,in 2002.

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Yes, I misread it, which I thought would be clear in my next post.