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How did she decline so rapidly?

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Maggiethecat · 09/09/2022 09:19

Not really trying to know the cause of the queen’s death although I have wondered but can’t get my head round that picture of her greeting Liz Truss to her death 2 days later.

Initially thought it must have been something acute like a stroke or heart but then it seems like she has been ailing (haven’t really taken note, other than palace statements of mobility issues).

Perhaps she had been bedridden for weeks and made a huge effort on Monday to fulfil her last duty but I’m inclined to think had that been the case more of her family would have been near.

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Phos · 09/09/2022 09:44

girlmom21 · 09/09/2022 09:43

Why would they be put down?

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The only time they'd be put down is if they were very old dogs who would struggle with the upheaval. They're young, well-socialised dogs. I am sure Prince Charles or some of the staff who know the dogs well will be happy to take them.

GhostFromTheOtherSide · 09/09/2022 09:45

this thread is in really bad taste.

Fact is that we all die, and there doesn’t have to be a reason. There comes a point when your life just ends because you’ve reached the end of it.

My great granny just sat down in her chair one night, gave a sigh and was gone. No cause, no illness, no sudden stroke or whatever, her heart just stopped beating.

The queen was 96. She had reached the end of her life.

But all the talk of how she “definitely had cancer” and “wanted to get shot of Boris” is really unnecessary.

MarshaBradyo · 09/09/2022 09:45

CaveMum · 09/09/2022 09:39

I believe she hung on to get shot of Boris - once the promise of him going earlier in the summer was there you’d do your darnedest wouldn’t you? I mean who’d want that buffoon representing you as one of the chief mourners or reading a eulogy?

Really? I think it makes him more central to her life and I doubt he was that much of a consideration.

I think it’s common on mn to place him this highly as a motivation but not the reality

MsRosley · 09/09/2022 09:45

She was 96, OP. Do you really need to ask this question?

CharChar91 · 09/09/2022 09:46

I lost my great Nan recently, she was 98. Living on her own fully independently and well aside from being almost completely deaf. She was absolutely fine until she just wasn't. Sadly her heart failed and she spent her last few days in hospital. That was really the only time she's ever had to take medication. What a life and what a way to go. Peacefully. RIP to both.

sunglassesonthetable · 09/09/2022 09:46

Will they be put down? Or given to her servants/friends/family who want to keep them? Or given to a shelter?

Given to a shelter????!

They'll probably carry on as they are, being looked after by staff. Life in the castles will carry on under King Charles.

The lives of the RF are not like ours.

Pigeonpair1 · 09/09/2022 09:47

I heard she had a fall on Wednesday evening night but no idea if this is true. Could explain why she seemed frail but OK during the photocall with Liz Truss?

Yankeedoodlekandle · 09/09/2022 09:48

GhostFromTheOtherSide · 09/09/2022 09:45

this thread is in really bad taste.

Fact is that we all die, and there doesn’t have to be a reason. There comes a point when your life just ends because you’ve reached the end of it.

My great granny just sat down in her chair one night, gave a sigh and was gone. No cause, no illness, no sudden stroke or whatever, her heart just stopped beating.

The queen was 96. She had reached the end of her life.

But all the talk of how she “definitely had cancer” and “wanted to get shot of Boris” is really unnecessary.

I think what is shows is how detached we have become from death. Death is a natural part of the cycle of life and in generations past people would die naturally at home. People would have experience of death at a much younger age. Now it is quite common for people to reach adulthood without experiencing the death of a close relative.

InChocolateWeTrust · 09/09/2022 09:48

She had a bruised hand when meeting liz truss, it looked like she may have had cannulas there. She could have been receiving all sorts of medication, pain relief etc. She could have simply taken a bad turn, she could have chosen to discontinue medications etc

EmmaH2022 · 09/09/2022 09:49

It's good to go quickly
my father took three months to decline and die, wouldn't wish that on your worst enemy.

my uncle, also in 90s, had lunch with a friend, came home for a nap, died in his sleep. Good way to go.

youcantry · 09/09/2022 09:49

My ex FiL went to bed, completely normal. No known health problems, 78.
Catholic, said his prayers and my MiL found him after her night shift in the sane position.
I'm Not religious at all but what a way to go

PuttingDownRoots · 09/09/2022 09:50

My grandmothers last sport results appeared in her local newspaper after her obituary. Indeed, I believe she still held a national title at the time of her death (in her age group).

We all found it oddly comforting... she wanted to be active to the end.

Beefilm · 09/09/2022 09:50

A medical relative of mine suggests she had some cancer with possible secondaries in her bones, hence loss of weight and intermittent mobility issues, but the end was too sudden for the final cause to be cancer, most likely a stroke.

EmmaH2022 · 09/09/2022 09:50

People are strangely unrealistic about life and death now. I don't get it. Maybe it's just on here.

Onlyforcake · 09/09/2022 09:51

She'd been keeping the management of a condition private (weight loss, notable changes to skin tone, falls, reported mobility problems) whilst in relative good spirits (excellent health care and having tasks to focus on can really help there). I do not follow the royals but my many 90 + clients in care do and I and they have been expecting it, the body can just start to fail you. I think it'd be great if this increases public willingness to discuss the process of death.

jennakong · 09/09/2022 09:51

I think probably a devastating stroke, they can happen at any time to the very old, without much warning. She was probably found by her staff yesterday morning and judged too far gone to be able to make the journey to hospital - the sovereign dying in an ambulance or air ambulance was probably not a risk they were prepared to take.

The RF would have been present in Scotland, perhaps discreetly, if her death had been expected imminently. The fact that so many travelled in the same plane shows what a mad scramble it was to get to the Highlands from hundreds of miles away.

Badger1970 · 09/09/2022 09:52

Purpura under the skin is so common in elderly people, my Dad's arms are covered in it and he's 82. Doesn't mean a cannula was there at all.

I used to work in a nursing home, and we'd often tuck people into bed who were perfectly themselves and then find them gasping for breath in the morning... dead by lunchtime. At that point, families were called in pronto. Perfectly normal and actually a lovely way to go than weeks of slow organ failure.

shinynewapple22 · 09/09/2022 09:53

@Teddletime I too have been wondering about the corgis . Obviously they will be cared for now by family or household members - but I do think they will miss her .

I have also wondered about the hanging on in there for a new PM this week . And of course all the jubilee celebrations earlier this year .

I have always thought similar with my grandmother - there were a couple of things she really wanted to see in her final year and then she was happy to go .

ThickCutSteakChips · 09/09/2022 09:53

Yes, all this 'how did she die' stuff as if it's a real mystery...she was 96! It could have been anything, maybe she had been poorly, maybe she had been feeling OK. Given that none of her family were there in the last few days it's likely that she had been OK and then her body just said 'enough', cancer or not.

My great granny just sat down in her chair one night, gave a sigh and was gone. No cause, no illness, no sudden stroke or whatever, her heart just stopped beating.

God, I would love to go like this.

TonTonMacoute · 09/09/2022 09:53

sunglassesonthetable · 09/09/2022 09:28

She was pictured doing her work with Liz Truss on Monday. She was dead on Thursday. I think that sounds like a good death. I hope mine is like that.

I've sadly been around not such good deaths.

Absolutely this.

A long slow decline in the elderly is painful and terrible, and witnessing it has drastically changed my view of death.

PurpleFlowers12 · 09/09/2022 09:55

AlisonDonut · 09/09/2022 09:35

I said to my OH when I saw the Liz Truss photo that it was photoshopped.

It just looked so wrong.

I thought it looked very odd too. Maybe not photoshopped but as if the Queen was being propped up like a puppet. She looked to frail to be standing there smiling.

Wishyfishy · 09/09/2022 09:55

It’s the way to go isn’t it. She’s so lucky she didn’t suffer from any dementia and was fairly active until the end. It sounded similar for her mother and for Philip too.

GhostFromTheOtherSide · 09/09/2022 09:55

But she doesn’t have to have had a stroke or heart attack or fall, it’s entirely possible that she just died. She was 96.

Or do people think that as long as you don’t have any health problems you will go on indefinitely?

Given we’re all going to die I’m quite up for just going to sleep one night and not waking up or dropping dead one day as opposed to living for months or years with some kind of debilitating disease.

I had a cardiac arrest 3 years ago, and I went from being here to not. Had I not been resuscitated I would just have gone from being awake to oblivion without notice. I think that’s quite the way to go if that’s my time.

urrrgh46 · 09/09/2022 09:56

My grandad died aged 98 with all his mental faculties. I believe his mind decided he no longer really wanted to live and his body said ok! My grandma passed 4 yrs prior to him. He declined quickly and was in a nursing home for only a few weeks after coming out of hospital. He waited to see my Dad (his son in law and executor of his will) and died while he was with him - literally just went to sleep and went.

JasmineIndigo · 09/09/2022 09:56

OP you really couldn't think that the Queen was a glowing picture of health in the photos with Liz Truss - she was an extremely frail, extremely old lady. I don't think you could possibly say it was a rapid decline, sadly she has been declining for the past few years, but what an age to get to!