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Queen Passing but Not feeling It – AIBU

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Richielogic · 09/09/2022 05:05

Now don’t get me wrong, of course it’s a massive loss to the UK, commonwealth and to her family, I get that but for me personally I’m just not feeling it. I think I have so many matters of my own, work and family to deal with and worry about that I just can’t relate to it.

Only today three hours before the official announcement, all five main UK TV channels were nonstop talking about the queen and we have gone into what I can only describe as a “24hr Queenathon” where in respect, TV is in a loop just talking about the same thing over and over constant. We will have weeks of this now and a bank holiday so more business interruption at a horrendous economic time and I’m sick of it already.

It's not that I’m uncompassionate, I got very upset recently over some of the atrocities that children in Ukraine have faced from Russian aggression, they have something to really worry about at night, that really upset me but with the Queen passing I’m just not feeling it. I will celebrate the life of the Queen, she has been amazing, but I can’t relate to mourning over her, I just can’t.

My Sister-in-law today has been in tears over the Queens death, half of me feels like saying “just get a grip, you're lucky that’s all you need to cry about” of course I won't, will just nod and say it's very sad but I just think, yes Queens been incredible, let's celebrate her life but as for mourning, shouldn’t that be for direct family only? AIBU?

Finally, at 96 I feel she had a really long life, worked hard but the best of everything. Some good people just don’t get a fraction of that, maybe that’s also a factor for me. Anyone else feeling the same or am I being uncompassionate?

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 09:33

Culldesack · 09/09/2022 09:32

I don't read chat.

Legit. Well, in that case I shall look forward to seeing all the posts from you on the more pro-monarchist AIBU threads telling the OPs there was plenty of room on other threads where they could've joined in rather than starting their own.

NotMyselfWithoutCoffee · 09/09/2022 09:33

I feel sad but not in a personal grieving way, more because it's the end of an era and what felt like stability in a time of turmoil, as she was just always there and has been Queen since before I was born.

I feel like if someone had told me their relative had died, emotional for them but it doesn't affect me personally. It does feel like everything we know is going down the pan though, covid, the government, the economy and now the Queen dying.
I miss the 2000s..they were a better time.

PenguinMan · 09/09/2022 09:33

There is a chance that you or one of your family members will die today.

Most of us won’t care or feel anything because we don’t know you.

So you are not BU to feel that way.

But if you do have a family member die and you start a thread on here, then I can guarantee posters will be very kind and sympathetic.

I hope that no one would tell you that it doesn’t affect them or they don’t feel anything for your family member because even though it’s true it’s just completely unnecessary.

You did not know the Queen personally so it’s ok for you to not feel anything.
But I find it very distasteful that you would create a thread saying so, as some of us did know her personally and it’s a death of someone we care about.

Even if people didn’t know her personally, I can absolutely see why they’d be upset over threads like this as she has been a strong, female constant for 70 years in a country that has gone through some very scary, uncertain times.

So YABU.

angeIica · 09/09/2022 09:34

"You're correct. I should have said it goes off the scale. 👍"*

I think you've rather missed the point, twice now, or don't understand irony.

vera99 · 09/09/2022 09:36

Out of respect for others' feelings, I'm not posting on any other threads but this one as it seems a reasonable discussion can be had. But if snippy thread police come in wishing that we close down that debate out of 'respect' then that makes me all the angrier. Have some respect for those with other feelings or points of view after all, it's what she would have wanted.

Culldesack · 09/09/2022 09:37

angeIica · 09/09/2022 09:34

"You're correct. I should have said it goes off the scale. 👍"*

I think you've rather missed the point, twice now, or don't understand irony.

I think it's you, who is missing the point.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 09:38

vera99 · 09/09/2022 09:36

Out of respect for others' feelings, I'm not posting on any other threads but this one as it seems a reasonable discussion can be had. But if snippy thread police come in wishing that we close down that debate out of 'respect' then that makes me all the angrier. Have some respect for those with other feelings or points of view after all, it's what she would have wanted.

Yes, the entitlement shown by some of the people bleating on about respect is as pathetic as it is hypocritical. Additionally, people need to take some responsibility for not clicking on things that it's clear they might find offensive. It's very obvious from the title what this is about. Anyone who is upset or offended at the content of this thread has done it to themselves.

Culldesack · 09/09/2022 09:41

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 09:33

Legit. Well, in that case I shall look forward to seeing all the posts from you on the more pro-monarchist AIBU threads telling the OPs there was plenty of room on other threads where they could've joined in rather than starting their own.

If ever there were a non sequitur, this is it. Unless you are specifically referring to AIBU posts in respecting the nation's grieving, not complaining about it. You will have a job, there aren't any.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 09/09/2022 09:41

i agree with pps - an old lady dying of old age isn’t necessarily something to grieve over - unless you knew her and are going to miss her company. But that would be for your own sake, not for her.

Fine to remember her life, acknowledge what she did well etc, but not need to get involved in performative grief. It’s a bit ghoulish and the family probably don’t even want that.

Being upset by actual atrocities in the world seems much more normal.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 09:44

Culldesack · 09/09/2022 09:41

If ever there were a non sequitur, this is it. Unless you are specifically referring to AIBU posts in respecting the nation's grieving, not complaining about it. You will have a job, there aren't any.

Everything you have written here is wrong. There are multiple threads in AIBU that are more pro-monarchist than this, people have started new ones when they could've simply posted on existing ones instead, and you quite clearly are bothered about the content of this thread rather than the duplication. Frankly you'd look better if you just admitted that rather than trying to dress it up in some kind of complaint about starting new threads.

Culldesack · 09/09/2022 09:45

vera99 · 09/09/2022 09:36

Out of respect for others' feelings, I'm not posting on any other threads but this one as it seems a reasonable discussion can be had. But if snippy thread police come in wishing that we close down that debate out of 'respect' then that makes me all the angrier. Have some respect for those with other feelings or points of view after all, it's what she would have wanted.

The irony about respect is getting stronger, by the minute. If people want to post their feelings, then may I suggest AIBU is not the place to do it. Yes, I will get more of the obligatory thread police stuff. AIBU isn't just reserved for favourable answers. A senior dignitary has passed away but let's just have a bitch about people grieving.

Culldesack · 09/09/2022 09:46

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 09:47

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Speaking of non-sequiters, there's a classic right there.

vera99 · 09/09/2022 09:51

I don't think Britain Elects quite gets the words right here.

Queen Passing but Not feeling It – AIBU
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angeIica · 09/09/2022 10:00

angeIica
"You're correct. I should have said it goes off the scale. 👍"**

I think you've rather missed the point, twice now, or don't understand irony.

"I think it's you, who is missing the point."

Hardly. And I don't think you'd be able to begin to explain how, given your posts on this thread so far.

Culldesack · 09/09/2022 10:04

angeIica · 09/09/2022 10:00

angeIica
"You're correct. I should have said it goes off the scale. 👍"**

I think you've rather missed the point, twice now, or don't understand irony.

"I think it's you, who is missing the point."

Hardly. And I don't think you'd be able to begin to explain how, given your posts on this thread so far.

No point in trying to define irony for those who don't understand it. I will leave you to your pissing on who and how people grieve. Is it unreasonable? You bet it is. Tasteless and classless.

vera99 · 09/09/2022 10:05

From another thread.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · Today 09:52
it’s called respect’ is being used to stop people thinking critically or questioning anything across MN. i note that none of the posters doing seem to recognise that going on MN to pull people up about ‘respect’ because they’re concerned that things that matter to them might be cancelled is hardly modelling the behaviour they want to see in others. Wouldn’t it be more appropriate for
those so concerned about showing respect by closing everything to respectfully take a national mourning break from buggering about on the internet (or just accept that people will have different opinions)
@SudocremOnEverything Spot on. Just the same as #BeKind, "you sound vile" and "if you can't say anything nice say nothing at all".
A lot of this is attempting to virtue signal.
We're adults.

Ketanne · 09/09/2022 10:07

YANBU, OP. Apart from thinking it's a shame someone has died, which is sad, I don't feel the need to mourn or do anything else. I might avoid social media and live TV for a while!

Sparklybutold · 09/09/2022 10:10

I acknowledge its sad but it certainly needs no more drama than the passing of any other 96 year old.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 10:10

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You're the one who brought up duplication, which isn't the same thing as duplicity incidentally. Btw you should probably not confuse 'in your head' and 'anyone'.

Meanwhile, it remains obvious that what you actually have a problem with is people who think differently to you on this subject. And that whole attitude is why threads like this are such a positive thing.

Culldesack · 09/09/2022 10:14

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 10:10

You're the one who brought up duplication, which isn't the same thing as duplicity incidentally. Btw you should probably not confuse 'in your head' and 'anyone'.

Meanwhile, it remains obvious that what you actually have a problem with is people who think differently to you on this subject. And that whole attitude is why threads like this are such a positive thing.

I certainly understand the concept of AIBU being a question. You don't. You don't like the answer being yes. No, it was you, who used the word duplication/duplicity. I will repeat, if you don't want somebody to tell you you are being unreasonable, don't ask the question.

angeIica · 09/09/2022 10:15

No point in trying to define irony for those who don't understand it. I will leave you to your pissing on who and how people grieve. Is it unreasonable? You bet it is. Tasteless and class.

You bet it is?

You said I missed the point, yet quite unable to explain how, as predicted, and clearly haven't read the thread properly. And I wouldn't expect you to be able to define irony.

DuvetHugger · 09/09/2022 10:16

How very strange that you chose to draft and send a long post about you not really being affected by the Queen's death.

Some might say, why not just say nothing?

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 09/09/2022 10:17

Culldesack · 09/09/2022 10:14

I certainly understand the concept of AIBU being a question. You don't. You don't like the answer being yes. No, it was you, who used the word duplication/duplicity. I will repeat, if you don't want somebody to tell you you are being unreasonable, don't ask the question.

Again, duplication and duplicity have two different meanings. But anyway, let us know when you've posted on the more pro monarchy threads tone policing and thread monitoring like you have here, so you can dispel the view that you're a massive hypocrite.

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