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To be sad that Queen has died but can't wait for the sycophancy to be over

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bedtimestoriesforbears · 08/09/2022 21:00

I am no royalist but like many in the same position I am truly moved by today's historical news

It is a "once in a lifetime" moment for many of us and I am going to admit that despite strong Republican views I surprised myself by being knocked sideways by news

Not that it wasn't expected and that the Queen hasn't had a good life but by the sheer magnitude of what is happening

However other threads seem to be dismissing the fact that we can feel both - sadness that an elderly individual who was "known" to all of us has died and an unwillingness to join in the "grief jamboree".

I feel like I did when Diana died - I am struggling to recognise the grief others are manifesting and the absolute deferential attitude present here

I feel like this will just build and build and we will be exhausted by end of it

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bedtimestoriesforbears · 08/09/2022 22:02

@Culldesack

Of course it's goady love. That's why you've posted it. Notice you haven't enabled the voting though.

Happy to if I knew how to do it - will look.

However I don't think voting would really make much difference

Some agree, some disagree, some vehemently disagree and some probably think I phrased it wrong

It's my opinion at end of day - and you, of course, are welcome to yours

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SheldontheWonderSchlong · 08/09/2022 22:03

YANBU. I completely agree, OP.

ChagSameachDoreen · 08/09/2022 22:03

Qwerkie · 08/09/2022 21:08

Yanbu - there’s an awful poem making the rounds on Facebook, some maudlin shite about Phillip tapping her on the shoulder and them going to heaven or something

It's dreadful! Written by someone illiterate, judging by the grammar.

Tania64 · 08/09/2022 22:03

Qwerkie · 08/09/2022 21:08

Yanbu - there’s an awful poem making the rounds on Facebook, some maudlin shite about Phillip tapping her on the shoulder and them going to heaven or something

Ha ha - they slept apart whilst he had numerous affairs but lets all pretend they were lovely together. These 'royal' parasites are the greatest form of evil hypocritical scroungers .

Hambledy · 08/09/2022 22:04

God, it's going to be awful. And the weather will be shit so we can't even go anywhere. Or switch on the fucking heating!

LucilleDarlingtonUnexpectedly · 08/09/2022 22:04

Why do people feel the need to criticise other people’s grieving? We’re all different and react differently.

inmyslippers · 08/09/2022 22:04

I've logged out of Instagram. Fed up of seeing some twee watercolour of her and Paddington heading over rainbow bridge. I just know we're going to have weeks of it

Culldesack · 08/09/2022 22:05

YourLipsMyLipsApocalypse · 08/09/2022 22:00

It's not goady to start a conversation about the nature and odd phenomenon of public grieving.

Just read some of the responses from those being (so they say) ambivalent about the breaking news. Degrading comments a plenty. So yes, this is a goady thread, which is actually in poor taste. But never mind, people's viewing time and inability to focus on something else, come first. How on earth can anybody expect there to be anything but an outpouring of emotion on the death of a long standing and well respected Monarch?!

sagalooshoe · 08/09/2022 22:07

The Queen would be overjoyed if everyone bought a £10 tree and planted it instead of all the cellophane wrapped flowers that will decay and cause a mess in the streets. If people really cared they'd make the effort to plant a tree instead.

Culldesack · 08/09/2022 22:07

Watercolour paintings of Paddington being offensive now 😂

IfCanCanICan · 08/09/2022 22:07

YANBU OP.

YourLipsMyLipsApocalypse · 08/09/2022 22:08

I disagree. I find it goady to be told I'm not allowed to post on threads if I don't display the expected amount of sadness and respect, neither of which I feel.

Not liking something doesn't make it designed to goad an argument. You just don't like it, that's all.

Hambledy · 08/09/2022 22:09

That frigging poem tho ... I didn't think I could hate any poem more than that kitty O'Meara crap ("and the people stayed home") that did the rounds on Facebook a couple of years ago but HELLO new contender.

gnilliwdog · 08/09/2022 22:10

@sagalooshoe I agree, or make a quiet donation to charity. Then get on with sorting out the myriad problems our country faces and attending to our lives. That is not disrespectful but in the old-fashioned spirit of duty and courage that she represented. Death is not a spectacle.

ReneBumsWombats · 08/09/2022 22:10

Why are so many people surprised that major news gets a lot of coverage?

YourLipsMyLipsApocalypse · 08/09/2022 22:10

sagalooshoe · 08/09/2022 22:07

The Queen would be overjoyed if everyone bought a £10 tree and planted it instead of all the cellophane wrapped flowers that will decay and cause a mess in the streets. If people really cared they'd make the effort to plant a tree instead.

The Queen, who secretly lobbied the Scottish government so she didn't have to follow green energy measures the rest of the country is held by, would be bothered by the amount of plastic, would she? Not sure about that really.

Cornflakegirll · 08/09/2022 22:10

OP I entirely agree, it’s going to be a LONG 10 days!

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 08/09/2022 22:11

I agree with you OP its sad and I’m sorry for the family because losing a much loved family member is hard. i know people feel strongly about this my dad said he is devastated by the news (anyone feeling even slightly that they can comment negatively about a 76 year old man feeling this way…don’t)

but you’re allowed to not really feel upset about it

you are also allowed to make a thread that quite clearly isnt fully on board with national mourning without people who have loads of sympathetic threads they could be posting on having a pop at you

its not like your title didn’t give people a heads up

Meadowland · 08/09/2022 22:11

OP - YANBU

Bretonbear · 08/09/2022 22:12

Culldesack · 08/09/2022 22:07

Watercolour paintings of Paddington being offensive now 😂

All you are showing with every post you write is that you are just simply unable to understand or accept that not everyone has the same opinion as you about this subject.

freckles20 · 08/09/2022 22:12

MarshaMelrose · 08/09/2022 21:45

I loved the queen. I've never known anyone to be head of state. I think she did a fabulous and held the respect of people around the world. As they came and went, she just stayed.
I thought all this yesterday and I'll think it all tomorrow. I don't think I'm being sycophantic but I don't care if people think I am. I'm very sad tonight.

But the whole point is she pretty much had to stay- that's how the monarchy is supposed to work. She didn't get a choice, neither did we.

Maybe it's what she wanted, maybe not. She certainly did her duty.

Culldesack · 08/09/2022 22:12

YourLipsMyLipsApocalypse · 08/09/2022 22:08

I disagree. I find it goady to be told I'm not allowed to post on threads if I don't display the expected amount of sadness and respect, neither of which I feel.

Not liking something doesn't make it designed to goad an argument. You just don't like it, that's all.

I haven't said that at all. I have made reference to the disgusting comments that are being made on this thread. I have called the thread goady, not you. Talking of things not being liked, I guess such a death takes the attention away from some people. As well as the nation being affected, a family has lost a loved one. I never can see anything to moan about when that happens. It is lacking in class and decorum.

TarasHarp55 · 08/09/2022 22:13

I feel sorry for the family, as they're the ones who will feel the loss, but I can't help but compare her wonderfully privileged life to my dear mum, who was of the same generation. My mum worked so hard for very little reward, always struggled.

The queen had an absolutely fabulous life, all those palaces, castles, servants, chauffeurs, doctors etc. She was certainly rewarded well for her service.

CapMarvel · 08/09/2022 22:13

It's sad she's died, but is there any need for my local council to announce 10 - TEN - days of mourning?

And to those saying that you can just turn the TV or whatever, well, have a look at the BBC sport pages right now and tell me you can get away from it. Apparently the headline from the US open tennis is that Queen Elizabeth is dead.

To be sad that Queen has died but can't wait for the sycophancy to be over
Hambledy · 08/09/2022 22:13

@ReneBumsWombats oh come on. It's not just an event with lots of coverage. All these TV goons have had their ready to air pre recorded footage lined up for years. They have added to it for decades and now it's all going out unstoppably. It's going to be wall to wall across all UK channels for weeks, just when we've all cancelled Netflix because we can't afford it any more.