To be sad that Queen has died but can't wait for the sycophancy to be over

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I am no royalist but like many in the same position I am truly moved by today's historical news

It is a "once in a lifetime" moment for many of us and I am going to admit that despite strong Republican views I surprised myself by being knocked sideways by news

Not that it wasn't expected and that the Queen hasn't had a good life but by the sheer magnitude of what is happening

However other threads seem to be dismissing the fact that we can feel both - sadness that an elderly individual who was "known" to all of us has died and an unwillingness to join in the "grief jamboree".

I feel like I did when Diana died - I am struggling to recognise the grief others are manifesting and the absolute deferential attitude present here

I feel like this will just build and build and we will be exhausted by end of it

@PerfectPictureFrame

Sooner or later, if you love, grief will touch your life. Let others grieve as they want to.

I have grieved and how dare you suggest that only those who have lost loved ones can comment on this or not feel uncomfortable about mawkishness now on display

I am sorry that you lost your incredible DM but don't assume that as I am not on board with some of the overt displays of grief and media telling us how "we should behave" suggests that I and my family have not also experienced loss

That is crass and insensitive

I’m afraid you are just going to have to put up with it, or turn off your TV. I’m not a royalist at all, and I find the tone much of the coverage fairly nauseating, but that doesn’t change the fact that the Queen was a figure of major historical importance and her death is a moment of historical significance for Britain & the Commonwealth. She was the longest reigning monarch in British history, and one of the most important. Her life, reign and death will be studied and read about for centuries, just as the lives of Henry VIII and Victoria are today.

What's the poem? I haven't seen it!

Well don't do something like this

This woman has just done business suicide

Who would be this stupid to post this on her business page.

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I don't get why you posted this in the AIBU section, when you are convinced you're being reasonable. Full marks for bringing along some classy people though 👏

It's the spelling and grammar and punctuation errors that make it almost insensitive. Almost as if the author was in such a hurry to get their poem out there to win the war of 'likes' that they couldn't even be arsed to check it made sense.

I feel a bit sad in an “end of an era” way, but devastated, stunned, shocked? No. She was a frail 96 year old woman who died peacefully in her favourite place with her son and family.

I agree with you OP - the death watch all afternoon has been grim. Really inappropriate imo. And filling up hours of airtime saying absolutely nothing is absolutely pointless. Why do Sky need to cancel programmes on their other channels to show the exact same news you can watch on their news channel if you are so inclined?

I kind of 'got' it with Diana - it was such a shock, plus she had so much life ahead and young children left behind. But the Queen is a natural end to a long life. I'm surprised by how upset I do feel about it - end of an era. But the constant filling of airtime saying nothing in particular is doing my head in already!

FFS, it's sad an old lady has died. But fucking hell, she wasn't living in our world. No money worries, didn't have worry about the cost of living. No concerns her power bills couldn't be paid. No cut backs. No worries about getting the best health treatment. And I doubt she gave two fucks about us minions. Yet we have to give a fuck about her. And all totally undeserved, just because she was born lucky.

Sooner we become a republic and get rid of these fucking scroungers the better.

OP I don't think you have been tactless or insensitive.

I feel similarly to you.

Let's also remember that the circumstances of Diana's death and her age were completely different to The Queen's. It was one hell of a shock and a tragedy.

I didn't grieve, but I was shocked and sad for her boys.

This is very different.

Having the same exact news on over and over again on a 10 minute loop on multiple channels doesnt actually add any eaning, value or impact to the event. It's just repetitive, desensitizing and cheap

Yes, this - what purpose is it serving? Ditto the mawkish, dirge-like music across all the music channels.

I get that some people are sad, and they are entitled to feel that way, but I find the desire to police people’s emotional response to things and enforce some kind of ‘correct response’ bizarre and slightly sinister. You can’t force people to mourn.

If you don't want to see coverage of the Royal family then you can always move to Antarctica, youll live in radio silence.
End of day she was the Queen and like it or not they'll cover every aspect of it right up to the coronation
Just remember it could be worse, we could have a president and look at the state of countries with presidents. So I think suffering the media frenzy of the queens death is a all price to pay

i can’t get sad about an old lady I don’t know dying. I’m also cross that I’ve heard ‘on behalf of us all’ etc etc - no, you can’t speak for all of us. I genuinely don’t care other than for her family it’s sad, just like when anyone dies. But you know, 96 - no-one lives forever. It doesn’t affect my day to day life.

@Culldesack

Full marks for bringing along some classy people though

Whatever! You responded too - this post was not goady but you appear to be busting for a fight - knock yourself out love

YANBU. It currently feels very unreal although, of course, we knew that it was coming quite soon but I surprised myself by being knocked slightly sideways when it was announced. It's sad, it's a really weird one for the country because for the majority of us she's the only royal head of state we've ever known and given that the country is already in a state this feels like just one more thing.

But.

I find myself dreading the weeks of public mourning, the never-ending tribute programmes, not being able to watch stuff that I really enjoy because god forbid we want to escape with some of our favourite wastes of time. Yes, there is Netflix and Amazon (and all the others) and thank god for that but it's the 21st century and I feel that the MSM are forcing it on us. I checked to see what was on BBC4 earlier as I thought it would be a break from the wall-to-wall. Nope. It's off air because ... then a friend told me that QVC and Gems TV are off air. Now, I have no desire to watch either but it's frankly mental that they're off air.

I was looking forward to All That Glitters tonight and the new series of The News Quiz tomorrow and I'm selfish enough to be pissed off about that whilst at the same time thinking it's quite momentous that the queen has died. I will be bloody delighted when the ten days or two weeks or however long this goes on for is up because forced mourning is no mourning at all.

Wow. Wind yer neck in.

Of course it's goady love. That's why you've posted it. Notice you haven't enabled the voting though.

YANBU

Me too. It's a sad day.

I am as sad about the passing of the Queen as I would be to hear about the death of any other 96 year old person I've never met. I understand that some people will feel genuinely upset, and it's not my place to judge how others should feel. But I'm not going to pretend to be upset when I'm not. Surely to do so would be more "disrespectful" to her memory than being honest about the fact that whilst I had nothing against the Queen, I am not a Royalist, and felt no emotional connection to her when she was alive so don't feel any strong emotions about her death.

Some people have said it's not sycophancy. I dare anyone to watch Nicholas Witchell droning on and tell me that he's not the definition of sycophancy.

It's not goady to start a conversation about the nature and odd phenomenon of public grieving.

..sure John Mayor also had a wobble, when he was talking about PMs' meetings with the Queen.

I think it's good to pause and remember 70 years of duty. She really was a once in a lifetime special person.

But the idiots leaving flowers is already pissing me off. All covered in cellophane and plastic so it can't be easily composted, and someone has to come along and deal with it. And it will be at every Royal residence. FFS, give £10 to charity instead and post it on FB if you need to be seen to "do something". It'll be the same with the Book of Condolence and Lying in State...... queues of even more idiots trying to get on TV and sobbing hysterically. Pah.

YANBU. We managed about 3 minutes this evening of the news and then watched some episodes Schitt’s Creek on Netflix.