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To be sad that Queen has died but can't wait for the sycophancy to be over

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bedtimestoriesforbears · 08/09/2022 21:00

I am no royalist but like many in the same position I am truly moved by today's historical news

It is a "once in a lifetime" moment for many of us and I am going to admit that despite strong Republican views I surprised myself by being knocked sideways by news

Not that it wasn't expected and that the Queen hasn't had a good life but by the sheer magnitude of what is happening

However other threads seem to be dismissing the fact that we can feel both - sadness that an elderly individual who was "known" to all of us has died and an unwillingness to join in the "grief jamboree".

I feel like I did when Diana died - I am struggling to recognise the grief others are manifesting and the absolute deferential attitude present here

I feel like this will just build and build and we will be exhausted by end of it

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Culldesack · 08/09/2022 22:14

Bretonbear · 08/09/2022 22:12

All you are showing with every post you write is that you are just simply unable to understand or accept that not everyone has the same opinion as you about this subject.

I have to keep checking if this IS the AIBU section 🤔

Bretonbear · 08/09/2022 22:14

Culldesack · 08/09/2022 22:14

I have to keep checking if this IS the AIBU section 🤔

Yes, I imagine you do.

NessLockwood · 08/09/2022 22:17

I'm not in the slightest bit interested in the death of some random stranger and am finding it baffling that people claim to have 'cried' about it. Actually cried? Really? Pull yourself together.

Honestly for a people who believe in a stiff upper lip we've adopted some shockingly weak behaviour the last few decades. Weeping over a cartoon character in the newspapers.

YourLipsMyLipsApocalypse · 08/09/2022 22:18

What disgusting things @Culldesack? I don't think I've seen anything I'd call disgusting.

CruCru · 08/09/2022 22:19

I see your point OP. Being told what to think or how to feel is unpleasant, regardless of what it is about.

Realistically there is going to be a lot about the Queen on the telly for the next fortnight. I think I’m going to avoid FB.

It rather does her a disservice to emote very strongly. She had a long, interesting life. Her son, who is well past retirement age, will now be King.

Foldingchair · 08/09/2022 22:19
  1. I think people are confusing 'sad' with 'momentous'.
  2. Some people actually do think they know famous people. I cried when my favourite author died. I didn't know him; but I had read his books since I was 18 and had lived the worlds he'd created. It took me by surprise, but I think I was really mourning my youth and the fact I'd lost an escape route.
  3. Why does 'sad' have to equate to twee? That fucking poem and the badly drawn Paddington.
  4. The near canonisation.
Americano75 · 08/09/2022 22:19

Bretonbear · 08/09/2022 21:52

It's the spelling and grammar and punctuation errors that make it almost insensitive. Almost as if the author was in such a hurry to get their poem out there to win the war of 'likes' that they couldn't even be arsed to check it made sense.

It wouldn't be as bad if it wasn't written as though it's the queen's own words! Horrific stuff.

CandyLeBonBon · 08/09/2022 22:20

NessLockwood · 08/09/2022 22:17

I'm not in the slightest bit interested in the death of some random stranger and am finding it baffling that people claim to have 'cried' about it. Actually cried? Really? Pull yourself together.

Honestly for a people who believe in a stiff upper lip we've adopted some shockingly weak behaviour the last few decades. Weeping over a cartoon character in the newspapers.

Wow! Who pissed on your chips?!

Culldesack · 08/09/2022 22:20

YourLipsMyLipsApocalypse · 08/09/2022 22:18

What disgusting things @Culldesack? I don't think I've seen anything I'd call disgusting.

Depends on your standards.

ReneBumsWombats · 08/09/2022 22:20

Hambledy · 08/09/2022 22:13

@ReneBumsWombats oh come on. It's not just an event with lots of coverage. All these TV goons have had their ready to air pre recorded footage lined up for years. They have added to it for decades and now it's all going out unstoppably. It's going to be wall to wall across all UK channels for weeks, just when we've all cancelled Netflix because we can't afford it any more.

Of course they've been prepared for years. How did you think obituaries of famous people get published so quickly? It's standard practice. They'd be goons if they hadn't done any preparation for the death of the 96 year old monarch. News has to be published fast.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why are people so astounded by the obvious? Why do they think journalists are "goons" for being well prepared for something that's inevitable and very obviously major news? Why do they not understand that major news is major news? You seriously thought the death of the Queen was going to be a footnote on page 45?

oreobiscitz · 08/09/2022 22:20

Agree

That poem is naff

Why suddenly so much Paddington bear?

Its only just begun

The worst tribute ive seen today has been a pic of Princess marg and RIP Ma'am caption.

Errr you're 20 years too late div

YourLipsMyLipsApocalypse · 08/09/2022 22:21

Oh settle down @CandyLeBonBon it's just someone's opinion, just as valid as those posting about the nation's granny.

Glitterspy · 08/09/2022 22:21

I get your point, I have already had enough of seeing that idiotic Paddington watercolour (is Paddington also dead?) and nearly threw up reading the ridiculous newsagent greeting card poem. But I feel like your thread has been started a few days too soon. Just let people have at it for now.

SleepingStandingUp · 08/09/2022 22:21

I agree with not being able to understand it op. Of course people can grieve who they want and how they want, it's sad and I hope that somewhere in this something can heal with Harry for all their sakes. But I don't understand why people are "heartbroken" and "devastated" and sat sobbing in front of the TV (except where its triggering unresolved feelings of other loss) etc. Our day to day life will hardly change for most of us. Most of us wouldn't have ever met her if she'd lived another decade. Of course I haven't said this to the people who've told me they're devastated and sobbing and heartbroken because it isn't my place to question them. But I do find it odd

YourLipsMyLipsApocalypse · 08/09/2022 22:21

So no, you can't point out anything disgusting then @Culldesack. Call me shocked!

Overshadowed · 08/09/2022 22:22

I completely agree. So far I’ve had a message from school saying children will be supported if needed due to their potential grief, message from sports fixtures saying respect will be paid before matches, 90% of my social media friends are posting broken hearts with pictures of the Queen.

I’ve just cuddled my 3 children to sleep after telling them my Nan passed away today also. They don’t give a crap about the Queen right now but will be forced to go along with public mourning when they have REAL grief to deal with.

ImAvingOops · 08/09/2022 22:25

@Overshadowed i am very sorry for your loss. It must be very difficult for all those people who have lost loved ones today.

Rubysmama77 · 08/09/2022 22:25

@Overshadowed sorry for yours and your children's loss 😔

gnilliwdog · 08/09/2022 22:25

Sorry to hear about your Nan @Overshadowed

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 08/09/2022 22:26

overshadowed

💐

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 08/09/2022 22:26

Qwerkie · 08/09/2022 21:08

Yanbu - there’s an awful poem making the rounds on Facebook, some maudlin shite about Phillip tapping her on the shoulder and them going to heaven or something

It's dreadful, particularly as one of the lines says something like:
I turned around and seen I was asleep
I feel like pointing out the bloody awful grammatical error to all the grief stricken people posting it like it's some kind of profound piece of art.

Culldesack · 08/09/2022 22:27

YourLipsMyLipsApocalypse · 08/09/2022 22:21

So no, you can't point out anything disgusting then @Culldesack. Call me shocked!

You seem hell bent of defending a death as being used as some sort of platform for entitlement. Heaven forbid somebody has had to cancel their Netflix or watch a cute bear when the Queen has died. So inconsiderate of her. This thread's not goady though, no siree.

freckles20 · 08/09/2022 22:27

The constant coverage is ridiculous and distasteful. Scrabbling about for things to say, interviewing random person after random person, so called 'experts' predicting what is going on behind closed doors and how The Queen's family are feeling and reacting.

Less coverage, less scrabbling about without any facts, less conjecture would be much more appropriate.

Or, if mainstream TV channels feel that showing any form of entertainment is inappropriate just stop with the talking and put up a fixed banner.

Chanel 5 is showing a tribute to her life already FFS.

It is ironic that all this drama and endless talk is so far away from the way that the Queen dealt with things.

bedtimestoriesforbears · 08/09/2022 22:29

Have just walked into living room where DH is watching telly - and there is a clip of crowds outside Buckingham Palace some mourning but some clearly smiling, waving and taking selfies at the TV cameras (BBC news coverage).

These folks are treating it as a momentous moment to show friends where they are - if they want to do that fine. However, the reporter is saying words to the effect: "The mood here is sombre and everyone is being respectful due to this momentous occasion etc..."

When folks waving and smiling too enthusiastically they pan away - and go to stock interviews of how sad everyone is!

I am thankful that when Diana died we did not have social media and I think the reason this "show" is in part jarring is that when the King died in 1950s there was just no telly (I mean there was but not for everyone) and nothing to see anyway as it would have gone blank

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gnilliwdog · 08/09/2022 22:29

@freckles20 Indeed.