To be sad that Queen has died but can't wait for the sycophancy to be over

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I am no royalist but like many in the same position I am truly moved by today's historical news

It is a "once in a lifetime" moment for many of us and I am going to admit that despite strong Republican views I surprised myself by being knocked sideways by news

Not that it wasn't expected and that the Queen hasn't had a good life but by the sheer magnitude of what is happening

However other threads seem to be dismissing the fact that we can feel both - sadness that an elderly individual who was "known" to all of us has died and an unwillingness to join in the "grief jamboree".

I feel like I did when Diana died - I am struggling to recognise the grief others are manifesting and the absolute deferential attitude present here

I feel like this will just build and build and we will be exhausted by end of it

Isn’t it funny that when somebody wants to swerve a difficult question, they start crying about being patronised? Let’s ask it again.

Why is the OP, in your view, required to show more respect than Jeremy Corbyn, a politician?

The OP doesn't need to do anything but I thought it was very decent of JC to make this statement. He disagrees with monarchy but paid tribute to an important historical figure. That's not sycophancy.

I liked JC’s statement a lot. I thought it was just right and very nice. Even republicans can respect the person themselves, hence the mention of jam etc.

I agree. Also, where's the British spirit of understatement and grit? Saw a bizarre conservative in tears stating her 6 year old had told her not to worry, the King would look after us now. FGS, are even our politicians unable to be resilient?

Yes, me too. I loved the jam part! As a fellow preserver. But then, I love JC, and agree with pretty much everything he has to say. One of the good guys, which I suspect the Queen knew. Some say she was a secret lefty in some ways 😉

I've found another 'poem' and this one is way worse than Putin.

Paddington sat down
sadly

On a green and quiet glade

And pulled a sandwich from his
little hat

Made With the nicest marmalade

He had heard sad news this very day

That the Queen's life had come to an end

He cried because that day they met

She had become his bestest
friend

They had shared some tea

That very day when
to the Palace he had been invited

He
remembered he could hardly speak

He was so very very excited

He offered her his sandwich

Made with such love and care

She smiled at him and with a grin

She showed that little bear

That inside of her handbag

There was something she had made

And that She too kept a
special sandwich

Made of
the finest marmalade

Although he was
just a
little bear

And she a regal queen

Watching her take that sandwich out her bag

Was the best thing he had seen

He wondered if any body else would miss her

Now that she had gone

And his heart was filled up to the brim

When he turned his little phone on

He saw that Facebook had been flooded
With
her pictures old and new

And that he himself that little bear

Was also in them too

Although today he is the saddest

That he has ever been

He will always lovingly
remember

The
day he had tea with the Queen

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Re British understatement/grit, we can be pretty mawkish too. I blame the Victorians - all that Little Nell stuff.

I'm unclear what the people who are not doing certain things "out of respect" feel they want to do instead?

Or is that not how it works?

My mum was going to watch Leicester Tigers play rugby. The match is still on but she's not going "out of respect" . So she suggested that I cook her a meal instead or take her shopping. I'm not sure how that is more respectful?

A friend didn't work yesterday- the shop she works in closed "out of respect". She had a lie in, a boozy lunch and went bowling in the evening.

Our local children's sports matches have been cancelled. Some are doing training instead, others aren't doing anything so I anticipate that there will be some lie ins, some DIY, some extra fine on electronics and some games.

Ah that's true. I am just wanting the Brits to woman and man up a bit. Stop looking for parent figures and sort ourselves out.

@Hambledy
Holy shit. That's so bad, it's great.

I honestly couldn't care less. Rest in peace and all that, of course, but I am completely indifferent to her death.

@freckles20 I'm also really curious and unclear about the 'respect' thing.

My son's football match has been called off tmrw out of 'respect'. I don't know why making 10 year olds miss out on an hour of exercise is somehow showing respect? I don't get it.

Hilariously, they've arranged a friendly instead, so the respect notion seems a little woolly 😆

I just went through the city centre and all the billboards are the queen's photo in black and white.

It's very fucking North Korea - can we stop with the pretence that the UK is 100% monarchist and that we all feel sad?

Christ on a cracker. That new Paddington poem. Especially this bit:

And his heart was filled up to the brim

When he turned his little phone on

He saw that Facebook had been flooded

With her pictures old and new

And that he himself that little bear

Was also in them too

HIS LITTLE PHONE.

I almost wept. For the English language.

It's what she would've wanted, I'm sure.

You were moaning that the OP showed ‘less respect than Jeremy Corbyn’. I ask again, why is the OP required, by you, to show the same ‘respect’ as JC, or more respect? That’s why you made the comparison,

The thing I find strange is the impression I have had over the years is that the Queen would not want her subjects to mourn her too much. I think she would want them to move on quickly and get behind her son. I could be wrong but she struck me as a no nonsense type of lady.

She’s only been dead for 48 hours. It’s a bit soon to suggest moving on.

*YourLipsMyLipsApocalypse · Today 15:44
I just went through the city centre and all the billboards are the queen's photo in black and white.

It's very fucking North Korea - can we stop with the pretence that the UK is 100% monarchist and that we all feel sad?*

hurrah - I’ve found my people! I was sure you were out there somewhere albeit bound and gagged! Apologies for expressing these feelings in a mawkish, badly phrased, trite poem.

Did they shout 'I'm Spartacus' before delivering their opinion?

Irritating, isn't it?

Fed up with people saying that the whole country is mourning her death etc.

No we are not. I literally know of nobody who cares.

Ooos that should have read apologies for NOT expressing feelings in a poem. I apologise again and offer, in recompense, some rhymes;

one family lost their granny
for them that is sad,
the nation has mixed feelings
I am getting mad,
that media and sources
think that they speak for me
personally I’d like
to live in a meritocracy

no thanks needed!

And the bank holiday? Self employed DH so that’s a day’s pay gone. And the kids didn’t quite have enough time off for covid did they?

It’s stuff like this which is making me eye roll so hard it hurts

Working my way through the thread and this sums up everything I feel at the moment.

I'm indifferent because if I think too much about it, I just feel anger at the waste of money, the stupidity and the fact that the real problems in this country are now being ignored for a grief fest of someone none of us knew....and someone who certainly had a longer and more pampered life than the majority of people in this country.