To be sad that Queen has died but can't wait for the sycophancy to be over

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I am no royalist but like many in the same position I am truly moved by today's historical news

It is a "once in a lifetime" moment for many of us and I am going to admit that despite strong Republican views I surprised myself by being knocked sideways by news

Not that it wasn't expected and that the Queen hasn't had a good life but by the sheer magnitude of what is happening

However other threads seem to be dismissing the fact that we can feel both - sadness that an elderly individual who was "known" to all of us has died and an unwillingness to join in the "grief jamboree".

I feel like I did when Diana died - I am struggling to recognise the grief others are manifesting and the absolute deferential attitude present here

I feel like this will just build and build and we will be exhausted by end of it

You lost me when you put Putin and compassion in the same sentence.

I've read this a couple of times and I don't understand your point or your logic.

I haven't seen anyone "slagging off Lizzie" - what does this mean anyway?

As an example what I think the Op means.....

Kimg Charles III is now at Buckingham Palace. The flag has now been pulled from half past to full mast. Its back at the top of the pole.

Let's see how many people misunderstand why this has happened and start to become irrationally upset and offended the flag is no longer at half mast.

@ReneBumsWombats

Are you having a laugh?

Being inoffensive and get paid millions along with all your family?

C'mon.

Well I was oversimplifying a bit, yeah. But still, I don't think I could have hosted Donald Trump in my home without telling him what I thought or gone 70 years in the public eye, alongside however many governments and changes of law, without ever letting my personal thoughts and opinions get in the way.

Meghan Markle lasted about a month and Harry didn't need much persuasion.

I work in housing/homelessness and yesterday I had to assist someone who was doubled over, unconscious and I believed might be dead. Happily, they lived. No decent healthcare, no family around them, definitely not 96. 3 people were there to care about that person and their circumstances are infinitely more shocking and tragic than this.

Brava! @MrsTerryPratchett

To be fair I slagged the Queen and the entire RF off a lot while she was still alive.

@ReneBumsWombats

Both spoilt brats.

I just dont buy into this notion of service or gratitude.

It wasn't hard work and they're rewarded with immense wealth and privilege

You are YANBU.

I'm bored with it already. The BBC clearing their schedules and repeating themselves ad nauseam whilst they just waited for the announcement of her death was like watching the vultures circling. No, I wasn't watching it before someone says rudely that I didn't have to, but I did drop in on my elderly parents who were.

We went to visit friends last night and the subject was barely mentioned.

Freedom of speech is a rare thing if you go against the majority on Mumsnet. I'm off on holiday tomorrow and ignore the whole thing other than when it is forced upon me.

Let those of us who are not grieving, not grieve. It's not your job to police it.

Another tweaked Paddington photo spotted today

I'm going to sound heartless, but I'm neurodiverse, and I have just about enough social savvy to know that I can't talk about my feelings (or lack of them) to 99% of the population. I can't say how I feel on fb and have to nod my head and pretend to feel something I don't when around people who seem (they could actually be doing the same as me and masking) to be devastated.

I can't understand any of the emotions about someone you don't even know, someone that lived to a good age and died in their favourite place. Heck I don't understand emotions full stop, when my Dad died I tried to pretend I was sad, but in reality I was relieved that he wasn't in pain anymore. My my MIL died I cried for my partner and children, but again not because I was sad in myself.

I'm emotionally intelligent to understand the the Queen's family and friends will be sad, but I'm sure they weren't that surprised, she was 96 and had obviously been in bad health.
But I don't understand all the mass-mourning stuff. The way everything has to stop, the continuous programming on TV, the miserable music on every radio channel I flicked through this morning, the canceling events (If I'd had a running event canceled this weekend then I'd have probably been having a meltdown over that, especially a marathon at least one of which has been cancelled, months of training goes in to that). The crowds gathering, the tears from people who had never even met her, etc etc etc.
I don't understand it, didn't understand it over Princess Diana, didn't understand it over Captain Tom and don't understand it now. To me it feels yuck and in my mind its disrespectful.

But as I said at the start I'm neurodivergent, I know that the majority of people's brains don't work like mine. I just really hope it doesn't go on too long.

@Swizandswap

It defiantly says some thing about the personality of some posters on MN when even Vladimir Putin can shows more compassion and sends his condolences to the royal family during war with the west.

Oh ffs he didn't "show compassion", the Kremlin put out a generic statement to the press. Vlad isn't exactly misty eyed telling tales of them fondly chatting over tea is he?

Do you reckon someone, somewhere, could correct that godawful poem? Random capital letters, apostrophe omission. If you're going to write sentimental crap about the queen, at least use her English.

This is hilarious that someone posted thinking that Putin wrote that statement and that he gives a shiny shit about the queen.

mR puTIn iS ThE quEEn Of aLl oF aRe hEaRTs

As hilarious as thinking that people are brave to say stuff on mn now she's dead like they were worried she'd read mn when alive

I had a football fan saying other sports were being disrespectful by going ahead I asked why the only answer was it's disrespectful.

I find it hilarious football fans trying to take a moral high ground.

Why, what's particularly immoral about football fans?

@Swizandswap

It defiantly says some thing about the personality of some posters on MN when even Vladimir Putin can shows more compassion and sends his condolences to the royal family during war with the west. Wow fucking hell. 🤣
You believe that because mad vlad sent his condolences he has compassion.
Pop over to Ireland and visit the Ukrainian refugees living in tents to see how compassionate mad vlad is.
I'm actually shocked by the comparison.
Are you actually alright with your wild beliefs.

"I find it hilarious football fans trying to take a moral high ground."

Eh?

I don't really feel upset in the slightest tbh despite being an empathetic person. I know it's sad and wish her family the best but she was a total stranger really. However, several recent things have put it in perspective for me.

I had a visit from the police last week to ask me about an ex workmate who I was friendly with who they think may have committed suicide. She apparently disappeared out the blue at the start of August and family/live-in tenant haven't heard anything at all since. The latest is that they've found some bones in a nearby graveyard and are identifying them., Ben

I agree with you OP she was an amazing woman and an excellent monarch but It seems that she wasn't the type of person to want days of grief and anguish

It is very sad but, unfortunately, it's a fact of life. She is very lucky to have lived until the age she did, doing something that she truly loved. She was a very lucky woman.

RIP, ma'am.

He's a well known republican. He didn't need to say a thing.
Did you know that politicians have people to manage their comms? I love that patronising phraseology