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my boyfriend likes Andrew Tate....emotional support please?

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PinkStarAtNight · 06/09/2022 22:12

so I only really came to know of Andrew Tate a few weeks ago when he got banned from the internet and it was on LBC. The way they described comments that he said reminded me of a guy I had overheard my boyfriend laughing at when he was watching TikTok. I had raised an eyebrow at what I heard and my boyfriend had laughed and said 'he's saying everything tongue in cheek, but to be honest a lot of what he says is true.'

I didn't think too much of it until I heard the show on LBC saying he had been banned for his misogynistic comments and harmful influences on young people and they quoted some of what he said...I went to my boyfriend and asked him if this was the guy he sometimes watches clips of. He said yes, it was. We then had a conversation about him being banned and boyfriend said he didn't think he should have been banned, because its cancel culture and all Andrew Tate did was express his opinions. I said that he was spouting misogynistic comments and it was awful/could have a negative impact on young men/as a society we can't allow those sorts of comments etc so of course he should have been banned.

In the last couple of weeks we have had numerous conversations about it, where we have both been tried to be calm and listen to each other's opinions. His argument is that Andrew Tate is standing up for men everywhere who feel oppressed by society and feel that their mental health issues are not recognised or taken seriously. He quoted how men are more likely to commit suicide and don't feel able to talk about their feelings, and women just want to try and 'fix' them by using methods that help women, like talking...but men don't like talking, it doesn't work for them, the thing that works for them is to 'go into' their masculinity.

Recently boyfriend has started saying things like 'women take advange of men', 'women are like annoying children', 'women want to work less than men' etc etc etc...he never said these things before watching Andrew Tate. He's says that Andrew Tate has 'set men free' and made it so they can finally speak their minds. And the fact that he got cancelled as soon as he did that, shows that society isn't ready to listen to men's problems and we (the women, because apparently women have taken control of society) just want to "shut them down". He gets very angry and emotive about this.

After me trying to talk to him more about the problem with some of the things Andrew Tate says, Boyfriend said that when it came to the misogynistic comments the media have misquoted him. So - tonight I sat down and watched some of his interviews on YouTube. I could barely stand to sit through them. The stuff that comes out of his mouth is vile. I started to send boyfriend messages quoting what Andrew Tate was saying in the interview I was watching...

for example:
"a father who is around for his child is like a second mother...a mother is there to keep a child alive, a father is there to make an impact"

"if you're there all the time you're gonna lose to an degree you're mystery....

"the biggest mistake fathers make is that they let the woman convince them that to be a good father they have to be there all the time....a man used to be at war or down in the coal mines...now he's at home changing nappies like a punk"

"For a female to retain her attractiveness to a man she has to retain a air of mystery..."

"If we accept biology no man is completely a one woman man...the male evolutionary imperative is not to have just one female....now there are dudes out there who will disagree with me but those are dudes that have got low testosterone and they ain't got no money and they ain't nothing...'

'Women are essentially like children"

"Chicks don't pay for anything"

I sent these quotes to my boyfriend, and pointed out to him to that in fact his idol had just insulted him, because my boyfriend firmly believes in being faithful in a relationship and never cheating...and yet Andrew Tate says that my boyfriend thinks that way because he 'has low testosterone and is nothing'.

Boyfriend has now blocked me, after sending the above messages to him.

I feel so upset and confused. I wish I could talk to my girlfriends but tbh they already don't like him very much and if I'm overreacting I don't want to get them all riled up and make it a thing for them to bring up when we get together, but I need a bit of a hand hold so I'm coming here.

Be gentle please. I don't know if IABU or what to do, I just feel upset/angry/confused. Maybe I should be trying to understand his point of view more but I just can't get my head around it.

OP posts:
Thatiswild · 06/09/2022 22:16

I think you’ve had a lucky escape by the sounds of it. I’ve never heard of Andrew Tate but he sounds awful. I’m sorry.

NovaDeltas · 06/09/2022 22:17

It's a boyfriend. Just dump him. He's a misogynistic Berk and will only make you miserable.

Plenty of normal men out there. This isn't one.

Unless you're married with joint property and a bunch of kids, it's as easy as telling him to pack his bags. You'll see his true colours then. Be prepared.

WulyJmpr · 06/09/2022 22:17

Run. Why would you want to be with this guy? He's at worst a mysoginist at best completely gullable, dim, and fodder for AT's viewing figures.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 06/09/2022 22:18

Do you want a misogynistic boyfriend? It's simple really.

MsTSwift · 06/09/2022 22:21

He sounds very dim. I thought only hard of thinking 13 year old boys followed this idiot.

Sciurus83 · 06/09/2022 22:23

Life's tok short for this crap, if he ever humbles himself to unblocking you dump him immediately. For the love of God don't get into some strung out process of trying to make him see the error of his ways, get rid.

ManateeFair · 06/09/2022 22:23

OP, if your boyfriend admires Andrew Tate you should absolutely leave him. He’s an extreme misogynist, genuinely hateful, and is in favour of coercive control and domestic violence. There is nothing more to ‘understand about his point of view’ than that. If someone was, eg, Jewish, they wouldn’t continue a relationship with a man who admired Hitler. If they were Muslim they wouldn’t date a man who admired Tommy Robinson. Any woman who dates a man who admires Tate is basically doing the equivalent of that - having a relationship with someone who hates women, their girlfriend included.

Kitkatcatflap · 06/09/2022 22:24

I couldn't put that to one side and pretend it didn't happen.

Plenty good ones out there - throw this one back.

Spudina · 06/09/2022 22:25

Do yourself a favour and dump this loser.

InstaHun88 · 06/09/2022 22:25

If your friends don't like him, that's a massive red flag already. Friends often see things we choose to overlook because we're horny/lonely/desperate.

The fact he likes that stuff is a second red flag.

He's shown you who he is. The next step is your choice. From experience, I can tell you these types of men get worse with age, not better.

PopPopPopP · 06/09/2022 22:25

I'd never heard of Andrew Tate, but just been reading about him and saw this online:

Tate stated that he decided to move to Romania in part because it was easier to be absolved of rape charges in Eastern Europe.In April 2022, Tate's house was raided by the Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism of Romania (DIICOT) in relation to a human trafficking and rape investigation. The U.S. embassy had previously alerted Romanian police that an American woman might be held at the property.In addition to an American woman, investigators found that a Romanian woman was held at the property. As of mid-2022, Romanian authorities said that the investigation was ongoing. Tate denies any wrongdoing.

Doesn't sound like my kind of person! And I couldn't see myself in a relationship with someone who thought he was an alright bloke!

LaughingPriest · 06/09/2022 22:25

I really recommend 'Men who hate women' by Laura Bates - a book about the massive part of the internet that is the 'manosphere' and the idiotic things men are talked into believing (often leading to being scammed).
I don't recognise the name Andrew Tate particularly but it's a good read - has all of their arguments (spoiler - they're all based on demonstrably false assumptions) and why they appeal to certain men.

And if it wasn't clear, ditch this fool.

ParvuliThankYouDebbie · 06/09/2022 22:26

You don’t need emotional support, you need a taxi 🚖

35965a · 06/09/2022 22:26

Any man who agrees with AT hates women. They may hide it well but they absolutely hate us. Get rid of him.

CandyLeBonBon · 06/09/2022 22:27

Well if you agree with him, stay with him. If you disagree with him, he'll probably dump you anyway, so I'd get out while you can!

PopPopPopP · 06/09/2022 22:28

ParvuliThankYouDebbie · 06/09/2022 22:26

You don’t need emotional support, you need a taxi 🚖

🤣🤣🤣

Luredbyapomegranate · 06/09/2022 22:29

You need to set your boyfriend free OP

Just dump and run.

Pheefifofuckthisshit · 06/09/2022 22:30

Why. Why would you even entertain long winded discussions over this? Block HIM and move on with your life.

I agree it's the same as the examples ManateeFair has given. Why would you even THINK about keeping such a vile specimen in your life?!

powershowerforanhour · 06/09/2022 22:30

"For the love of God don't get into some strung out process of trying to make him see the error of his ways, get rid"

Yeah, it falls under the "teaching a pig to sing" heading.

Haggisfish3 · 06/09/2022 22:31

Thank you for these examples op. I’m using them in my lesson on Andrew Tate and why he is a dangerous man.

Floydthebarber · 06/09/2022 22:31

Andrew Tate is just harming the perception of mens' mental health as most men are not complete bell ends like him. He has sexist opinions and is using the internet to become ''controversial' and famous. If he didn't have a platform he would just be an odd, lonely man that people avoid talking to.

Your boyfriend is never going to be happy in a relationship while he listens to AT.

ZaphodDent · 06/09/2022 22:33

Have resisted for so long, but please take possession of my first ever LTB.

Well done for calmly laying out to your BF why AT is a really vile misogynist, who actively hates women. The correct response from your idiot BF should not have been to block you.

Closetbeanmuncher · 06/09/2022 22:33

Yeah a receding, chipmunk faced, self-appointed “guru” with mommy issues, that’s taken too many kicks to the head…

You need to get rid of your boyfriend ASAP.

TiddleyWink · 06/09/2022 22:36

Gosh I can’t imagine why your friends don’t like him 🙄

Gather your self respect and get rid of this nasty little cretin. I’m really struggling to understand the point of your post and for hiding this from your friends - sounds worryingly like you’re planning to stay in this relationship. Imagine having kids with him and him being the father of your daughter 😢 Or what he’d turn your son into. Honestly, run a mile and then get some intensive therapy to examine why you didn’t do that sooner and without hesitation.

Closetbeanmuncher · 06/09/2022 22:39

You don’t need emotional support, you need a taxi 🚖

Just spat my water debbie fucksake

😂😂😂