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To still live my best life even though I’m fat

403 replies

Whatyagonnadokatie · 03/09/2022 22:26

Many mnetters hate fat people. They dress it up as concern for health. But I think it’s something deeper than that. Something about us letting ourselves lose self discipline or something. Some people even seem to think that we shouldn’t have nice clothes (let me tell you, no one purposely gains weight to wear some lovely plus size clothes).

reading some threads on here break my heart when women dread going to social events because they are fat.

aibu to say, fuck that, get on with your life and be happy even if you are fat. Wear the nice clothes, go to all the social events. And hey, eat the biscuit if you really want to

OP posts:
Ivegottherona · 05/09/2022 17:46

I don't think it's an obese thing I think anything more than a size 12 and you will be casted down.

After reading the post about the woman and her sister loosing weight.... having a small lunch and a bowl of shreddies DAILY as lunch. Many clearly have an eating disorder themselves.

PeloDramatic · 05/09/2022 17:47

Doingprettywellthanks · 05/09/2022 17:41

I mean with that history, I was never going to be a ballerina... do what I can with exercise and food

oh enough with the excuses

It's not an excuse. I'm 5ft 10 with size 8 feet and broad. We aren't all small women
It's like men, if you look at men you get shorter, slimmer, narrow shoulders men, then you get ones who are 6ft 4 and wide - not fat, but they will never fit in the same suit or shirt size as the more narrow men. That's not a weight thing, that's a build thing and people don't seem to get that some women are Amazonian build

Look I'm fighting an uphill battle here. I have hashimotos, I'm on a shit load of medication, actually physically allergic to exercise. I inject myself twice a week so I can exercise!
I don't stuff myself with food and do way more than the NHS guidelines for exercise despite being constantly fatigued with a blood disorder
I eat two meals a day and one snack
Last week I did 5 spin classes between 30-60 mins, and I'm doing a pelofondo which is 4hrs of spin in one go next month

Now imagine how it feels when someone says stop with the excuses? I lost 3 stone previously and dropped exactly 1 dress size

Paq · 05/09/2022 17:55

@Doingprettywellthanks I imagine that you and your friends have a fortunate combination of income, education, genes, lifestyle and ability to prepare fresh food.

Or are you saying you're actually morally superior?

Doingprettywellthanks · 05/09/2022 18:02

Paq · 05/09/2022 17:55

@Doingprettywellthanks I imagine that you and your friends have a fortunate combination of income, education, genes, lifestyle and ability to prepare fresh food.

Or are you saying you're actually morally superior?

But you’ve not said that

you have just said family history! Your cousin’s grandparents were obese which you think means that explains you being obese. Laughable really.

But yes, I do regard myself as “morally superior” 😂

PeloFondo · 05/09/2022 18:11

@Doingprettywellthanks no. You said you don't see old obese people. I listed my old obese family members
I pointed out that one was a wrestler, one a boxer as an example of our family build and that I was not going to be a 5ft 3 size 6, I look like the men in our family, strong and tall

Meanwhile I'll carry on exercising and eating well and not worrying about being a size 16 as my health is heavily monitored with blood tests every 3 months, I have a low resting pulse and BP of 110/70

Doingprettywellthanks · 05/09/2022 18:15

my health is heavily monitored with blood tests every 3 months,

if for under active thyroid - this certainly won’t be “heavily monitored”

my three monthly blood test are test that my hormone levels are correct

are you having to be “heavily monitored” for other health issues too?

do you have children? Have you told them that they will inevitably be obese because with family “history” like yours you don’t stand a chance?

Doingprettywellthanks · 05/09/2022 18:16

PeloFondo · 05/09/2022 18:11

@Doingprettywellthanks no. You said you don't see old obese people. I listed my old obese family members
I pointed out that one was a wrestler, one a boxer as an example of our family build and that I was not going to be a 5ft 3 size 6, I look like the men in our family, strong and tall

Meanwhile I'll carry on exercising and eating well and not worrying about being a size 16 as my health is heavily monitored with blood tests every 3 months, I have a low resting pulse and BP of 110/70

So tall and strong now? Not obese?

Doingprettywellthanks · 05/09/2022 18:17

actually physically allergic to exercise.

oh really? What’s the allergy called in medical terminology?

Doingprettywellthanks · 05/09/2022 18:17

“Physically allergic to exercise”

that’s a gem!

PeloFondo · 05/09/2022 18:22

Doingprettywellthanks · 05/09/2022 18:17

actually physically allergic to exercise.

oh really? What’s the allergy called in medical terminology?

I don't know if you're aware of how rude you sound querying people medical conditions
I mentioned I have a blood disorder therefore I'm under haematology
The monitoring is for the exercise allergy, under the urticaria section of dermatology. If you would like to Google it, I take Xolair which is a biologic and it's called cholinergic urticaria
You can also be allergic to water, and cold
HTH

PeloFondo · 05/09/2022 18:26

Here's another woman with it who is on the same medication

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/ohio-soccer-player-dangerously-allergic-sweat/story?id=23367577

5128gap · 05/09/2022 18:53

Doingprettywellthanks · 05/09/2022 18:17

“Physically allergic to exercise”

that’s a gem!

What is the matter with you? Post after post interrogating people and trying to catch them out? Scoffing when they've had the patience to answer you? Your obsession with this is coming across as really weird. I'm fascinated by your motives and what triggers you.

benning · 05/09/2022 22:55

Violinist64 · 05/09/2022 12:56

@paq, the harm done by substance misusers are well documented but they are generally treated far more sympathetically than obese people. I agree that we should all try to be active but there are some extreme sports out there with high risks. If someone injures themselves by participating in such extreme sports then they are still self inflicted injuries.

We don’t have an epidemic of sports injuries. We do have an obesity epidemic. That’s the difference.

benning · 05/09/2022 23:02

KimberleyClark · 05/09/2022 10:39

And don’t get me started on the COVID lockdowns - if everyone in the country were a healthy weight I think it very unlikely that they would have been needed. Just look at the percentages of people in ICU who were obese.

could you link to some figures please? My impression was that most of the people in ICU were unvaccinated, who may or may not be obese.

I haven’t got figures to hand but it was fairly well documented at the time that obesity was second only to age as a co-morbidity of Covid.

Seconded by my bf, who worked in ICU during the pandemic. She said 99% of her patients were overweight.

It’s one of the reasons Africa did not suffer the same level of deaths as other continents - a much smaller population over 60 and extremely low obesity rate.

KimberleyClark · 05/09/2022 23:11

We don’t want to be emulating Africa, malnutrition and water borne diseases due to dirty water are endemic there. But of course they have low obesity so they must be healthy.

Paq · 06/09/2022 06:06

"Africa" is a big, diverse place @KimberleyClark, and obesity is on the increase, as it is in any developed country.

Quincythequince · 06/09/2022 06:47

KimberleyClark · 05/09/2022 23:11

We don’t want to be emulating Africa, malnutrition and water borne diseases due to dirty water are endemic there. But of course they have low obesity so they must be healthy.

She didn’t say that did she.Nowhere did she say that! Her comment was wrt Covid deaths and obesity. She didn’t hold them up ass the pinnacle of health.

Why do people do this!

benning · 06/09/2022 07:02

Quincythequince · 06/09/2022 06:47

She didn’t say that did she.Nowhere did she say that! Her comment was wrt Covid deaths and obesity. She didn’t hold them up ass the pinnacle of health.

Why do people do this!

Thank you! I thought it was a bit of an odd interpretation too 🤔

Doingprettywellthanks · 06/09/2022 07:32

5128gap · 05/09/2022 18:53

What is the matter with you? Post after post interrogating people and trying to catch them out? Scoffing when they've had the patience to answer you? Your obsession with this is coming across as really weird. I'm fascinated by your motives and what triggers you.

Day off, children back at school, catching up on housework and repeatedly pausing audiobook to mindlessly surf the inter web

Doingprettywellthanks · 06/09/2022 07:54

oh and frustrated to see the endless stream of excuses

on another thread - the op has openly admitted that she’s finally accepted her obesity is due to poor diet and no movement. She is making small changes. I would put money on this poster losing weight and keeping it off in the long term.

5128gap · 06/09/2022 08:16

Doingprettywellthanks · 06/09/2022 07:54

oh and frustrated to see the endless stream of excuses

on another thread - the op has openly admitted that she’s finally accepted her obesity is due to poor diet and no movement. She is making small changes. I would put money on this poster losing weight and keeping it off in the long term.

You're probably right. I'm sure a significant majority of people could lose weight given the right conditions and motivation. Just as a significant majority of healthy weight people couldn't care less how fat someone else is.
But these threads attract the outliers. Those with health conditions who are tired of the unfair judgment, and those healthy weight people who seem disproportionately obsessed with fat people and whether or not they could lose weight. The motivation for the first group iis obvious, but the second makes me curious.

MsTSwift · 06/09/2022 08:36

It’s tough! I am on my turbo! I won’t eat til 12…this is just to maintain normal bmi. If only everything in life as easy as getting fat!

GladysGladioli · 06/09/2022 08:41

The best route to not worrying that people are judging you is to be a non judgemental person yourself. It simply won't occur to you.

To me it's all tied in together: you assume people are judging you because you are a bit self absorbed. (We are all self absorbed to a certain degree). You then feel shame at being so self absorbed so you turn to the thing that makes you feel better - food. It's a vicious cycle.

Work on accepting other people and yourself just as you/they are and life gets infinitely better. Crutches won't be needed so much.

We're all just bozos on the bus at the end of the day, trying to do our best.

Doingprettywellthanks · 06/09/2022 08:45

5128gap · 06/09/2022 08:16

You're probably right. I'm sure a significant majority of people could lose weight given the right conditions and motivation. Just as a significant majority of healthy weight people couldn't care less how fat someone else is.
But these threads attract the outliers. Those with health conditions who are tired of the unfair judgment, and those healthy weight people who seem disproportionately obsessed with fat people and whether or not they could lose weight. The motivation for the first group iis obvious, but the second makes me curious.

the nhs crisis dominates the news
obesity is one of the main contributing factors to the unbelievable pressure placed on the nhs
that is why many are frustrated

Agrudge · 06/09/2022 10:00

5128gap · 06/09/2022 08:16

You're probably right. I'm sure a significant majority of people could lose weight given the right conditions and motivation. Just as a significant majority of healthy weight people couldn't care less how fat someone else is.
But these threads attract the outliers. Those with health conditions who are tired of the unfair judgment, and those healthy weight people who seem disproportionately obsessed with fat people and whether or not they could lose weight. The motivation for the first group iis obvious, but the second makes me curious.

Right conditions????

A huge majority of people would lose weight just by eating better/slightly less than the need to .

Losing weight really isnt rocket science in it's most simplistic way

Eat less, move a bit more

Just doing every day human things burns most of the your reccomended calories. exercise only burns a relatively low percentage of calories