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DH angry about WhatsApp joke.

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Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 06:36

I'm in a group chat with a group of friends that DH and I know. It's me, DH, 2 women and 2 men (they aren't couples if it matters). We use it to chat throughout the week sometimes and also to arrange getting together.

Someone posted in it last night a picture which said something like 'they should arrange an app where you and friends enter all your shifts and it tells you which weekends you're all free'.

Everyone in the group also has children. But me and DH are the only ones who have DC with someone they are still with however DH also has a child with his ex. So childcare/arranging things when the others DC are with their other parent is also a factor so it's a bit difficult sometimes.

I need to give a bit of background here. Basically DHs ex is a bit of a pain. She's alright until she doesn't get her way and then she can be pretty horrid. We have DSC 50:50 but she has a habit of getting a better offer on her weekend and then telling us at the last minute she needs us to have DSC and getting very stroppy when / if we say no. She does it with everything, if she books a holiday with friends which falls over her time for example she won't say anything until a couple of days before and then act shocked/hard done to if we say we might not be able to accommodate it straight away due to work or whatever we have planned.

DH always used to let this happen before he met me as he just enjoyed the extra time with his child. Since we've been together though it's been a real bone of contention because I feel like our plans don't matter. We've cancelled them before so she can go off and do what she wants because DH feels too guilty to say no a lot of the time (she's a master at guilt tripping him). So we've argued about it in the past. However he is much better now at standing his ground if we have something planned and it's not really been as big of a deal between us for a while even though she still tries it a lot.

Anyway, I posted in the chat replying to the picture saying 'well we won't know when we have DSC until she (ex) is on her way to drop her off haha'.

The two women replied saying things like oh yeah forgot about that and laughing and one said what a PITA it must be.

Admittedly I have spoken to these women before about it separately from this group because it used to really, really annoy me when it was really bad.

Anyway DH has gone mad saying I've obviously been bitching about it with the others and how wrong it is I've been discussing the mother of HIS child with other people blah blah.

I can't believe how annoyed he was about it. HE used to bitch and moan about it (still does when she tries it now), he proclaims that he doesn't like her 99% of the time and can't wait until he never has to deal with her again so I've no idea why he's all of a sudden acting like it's a big crime to have a joke about how irritating she can be with close friends. She can be irritating! He knows that! And it's not just him it used to affect a lot so why shouldn't I have spoken to my friends about something that affected me as well?

I feel like he's just picking a fight over nothing. Sorry for the rant.

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Sunnyqueen · 03/09/2022 07:49

Yabu theres a time and a place and that wasn't it. It wasn't funny either you just showed him up that's why he's pissed off. If he wants to have a bitch that's up to him who where why and when he does it as its his business. Yours not so much. As others have said he was previously fine with the arrangement of having his child extra weekends as and when and has changed it for you (I know you've contradicted yourself on this since the op but I'm going to assume your first version was closest to the truth).

Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 07:50

BadNomad · 03/09/2022 07:49

I think it's different if it's him talking about it because it's his ex and his child. For example, if you'd vented to your mum about your DH, would you not be annoyed if she then bitched about him to her friends and they all passed comment in front of you? It's a bit personal.

If whatever my mum was doing was affecting DH as well? I don't think I could say anything about him having a vent to his mates about that. As I say, perhaps not in a group chat in hindsight but privately, how could I be angry? It affects him so I'd think it reasonable he have a moan about it.

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Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 07:53

Sorry I got the example muddled up in the above post but you get my drift. If whatever my DH was doing was affecting my mother as well then yes I'd think it reasonable for her to have an opinion and a moan about it.

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BadNomad · 03/09/2022 07:54

Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 07:50

If whatever my mum was doing was affecting DH as well? I don't think I could say anything about him having a vent to his mates about that. As I say, perhaps not in a group chat in hindsight but privately, how could I be angry? It affects him so I'd think it reasonable he have a moan about it.

Yes, in private is fine. Everyone vents. It was doing it in front of him that is the issue. It's very confronting seeing other people talking about your life in front of you like that.

Musti · 03/09/2022 07:54

I have my kids more and would rarely say no because they are my kids and if I hadn’t split up with their father I would spend all my time with them.

I wouldn’t take kindly to my boyfriend having a problem and bitching about it to his friends.

And if it became a problem then I would split up from them.

Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 07:55

But as I say, the comment wasn't intended to be a moan anyway, just said in a jokey way about an issue we used to have (not so much anymore) and something he himself jokes about. It wasn't said with the intention to hurt or offend anyone or even moan about anyone.

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RNLD1981 · 03/09/2022 07:55

raindon · 03/09/2022 07:19

how wrong it is I've been discussing the mother of HIS child with other people blah blah. rightio tell him that if the mother of HIS child is so sacred then he better not ever moan to you about her again and while he's at it he can't ever expect you to do any favours for HIS child, he can forget any hope of being a blended family where you work as a team. Go nuclear.

That sounds like good advice for a happy relationship...

Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 07:56

BadNomad · 03/09/2022 07:54

Yes, in private is fine. Everyone vents. It was doing it in front of him that is the issue. It's very confronting seeing other people talking about your life in front of you like that.

That's why I said in hindsight perhaps not the group chat. I just think he's unreasonable to think I should never have mentioned it to my friends in private.

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Asurvivor · 03/09/2022 07:56

I think you should just apologise to him. It was true but it was also tactless, he must know he has been weak in the past but you don’t need to make the point so publicly. We all have flaws and make mistakes!
Suggest you show him some love & kindness this morning and make up for it.

Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 07:57

Musti · 03/09/2022 07:54

I have my kids more and would rarely say no because they are my kids and if I hadn’t split up with their father I would spend all my time with them.

I wouldn’t take kindly to my boyfriend having a problem and bitching about it to his friends.

And if it became a problem then I would split up from them.

We rarely say or said no either. It's not like every time she asks we say no for the sake of it.

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MrsT007 · 03/09/2022 07:58

Yeah, I think maybe an apology is needed to your DH. I get what you’re saying, and I understand why you joked about it… but I can also see why DH is upset that you did.
It is as others have suggested - a matter for you and DH to vent/joke about. And of course, everyone vents to their friends. It’s the fact it went up in a group chat for all to see (even if they all already know the situation, it’s still a bit off to be joking about it). It’s a bone of contention and bitching about it/venting to get it off your chest to someone in private, is different to a few of you having a laugh in a group. He probably sees it that you’re all laughing at him, rather than the situation.
I’m sure there was no malicious intent behind it, just explain that to DH and apologise. He may even see it more from your pov then too.

LondonLovie · 03/09/2022 07:58

There's an old saying: Don't air your dirty laundry in public. He probably feels like you have and it's not something he's discussed with the wider group so feels you've done this

BadNomad · 03/09/2022 07:58

Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 07:56

That's why I said in hindsight perhaps not the group chat. I just think he's unreasonable to think I should never have mentioned it to my friends in private.

No, that's fine. Like I said, everyone vents. It's not gossiping or backstabbing, it's just getting something off your mind or wanting to talk things out. I don't think he really expects you not to talk to your friends. Just not make it so obvious.

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 03/09/2022 08:02

Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 07:56

That's why I said in hindsight perhaps not the group chat. I just think he's unreasonable to think I should never have mentioned it to my friends in private.

everyone knows their partners probably vent to their friends about them sometimes, but people don’t want attention drawn to it or to know specifics of what their partner has been venting about.

I assume my husband moans about me sometimes. I wouldn’t want to know who/what specifically he vents about or have it highlighted “oh I joke about that all the time with them”.

see what I mean.

Hillrunning · 03/09/2022 08:03

You weren't joking, you were bitching. A joke needed to be broader to be even remotely funny. Something about they needing to invent a way to flag if you have demanding bosses or last minute exs may have possibly been a bit funny. But you moaned about a specific person. I'd be really annoyed at you too.

Musti · 03/09/2022 08:08

Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 07:57

We rarely say or said no either. It's not like every time she asks we say no for the sake of it.

Doesn’t matter. They are his kids, he is happy spending extra time with them and yes he sometimes finds it annoying. You probably make him feel guilty about it. But that’s the deal when you are with someone with children.

And also, I would hate for my kids to feel unwanted. Imagine if they heard that their parents are fighting about not wanting to have them??

My kids know that they’re always welcome here. When my ex lets them down they come to me. If I’m not there I organise something.

I don’t care if it is unfair to me or it costs me more, they’re my kids and their well-being is what’s important. Plus I am already missing out by having to split parent.

Whatsappo · 03/09/2022 08:10

The post wasn't about whether or not DH is unreasonable for saying no when he has plans. He doesn't even disagree with that and it wasn't what I was asking.

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raindon · 03/09/2022 08:13

I don't get why people think you just have to sit in silence and aren't able to seek support from your group of friends in the form of a joke about something they are already aware of from your OH himself. Stepmumming is tough, support is needed.

QueSyrahSyrah · 03/09/2022 08:14

Sorry, Team DH here. Your response to the joke was unnecessary and crossed a line if it's something you've privately disagreed about in the past.

QueSyrahSyrah · 03/09/2022 08:16

Also, I'm not sure I understand why extra time with SDC means cancelling your plans left and right.

If you have DC together surely they are included in your plans in one way or another, what difference does one more make?

raindon · 03/09/2022 08:18

QueSyrahSyrah · 03/09/2022 08:16

Also, I'm not sure I understand why extra time with SDC means cancelling your plans left and right.

If you have DC together surely they are included in your plans in one way or another, what difference does one more make?

You can't take a DC to a pub usually. Or an evening getting pissed with friends. So DH will have to stay home.

SweetSakura · 03/09/2022 08:19

It was a tasteless joke and I think you should apologise to your DH.

Also, as you have children together anyway, then surely DSD's presence doesn't make much difference ? Surely either it's an activity you can take children to, or you are having to sort a babysitter anyway?

Heyisforhorses · 03/09/2022 08:21

It's one thing him talking or commenting to people but making a joke in a group isn't right. He now knows there has been talk behind his back.

I don't feel you're a terrible SM or stopped him seeing his kids, you have stopped enabling a CF ex to a degree. I don't thin YABU with that just about the joke as it isn't fair on your DH. Just apologise for upsetting him and move on.

QueSyrahSyrah · 03/09/2022 08:21

@raindon But the OP and her DH also have DC together, so they're probably not getting pissed all weekend every weekend?

felicityfortunate · 03/09/2022 08:21

SweetSakura · 03/09/2022 08:19

It was a tasteless joke and I think you should apologise to your DH.

Also, as you have children together anyway, then surely DSD's presence doesn't make much difference ? Surely either it's an activity you can take children to, or you are having to sort a babysitter anyway?

If you have plans that involve having booked something they could be difficult to change though