To not want to eat halal meat?

PinkRiceKrispies · 2022-08-28T11:24:27+00:00

Most restaurants serve it now, especially my favourite which is Indian food. Finding it more and more difficult to find somewhere that doesn't?

JudithHarper · 28/08/2022 12:25

I try to avoid that stuff as well.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 28/08/2022 12:28

I don't really like eating halal either.

HelloMrBond · 28/08/2022 12:30

Your quite right. Halal slaughter is nothing short of barbaric and shouldn’t be allowed under UK law.

SavoirFlair · 28/08/2022 12:31

Did you find one that doesn’t @PinkRiceKrispies ?

Keyansier · 28/08/2022 12:32

What difference does it make if the animal is dead already? It's not something I can get worked up over tbh.

Enb76 · 28/08/2022 12:35

I don’t see the issue with halal - you’re eating meat. I would rather people took greater interest in how animals live rather than how they die. Death is a fleeting moment in an animals life so I’m not fussed about the method of slaughter. I care a lot that my meat is high welfare.

Nobetterthansheoughttobe · 28/08/2022 12:38

HelloMrBond · 28/08/2022 12:30

Your quite right. Halal slaughter is nothing short of barbaric and shouldn’t be allowed under UK law.

Have you seen how slaughter houses work? The initial stub does not always work, so animaly are strung onto the machinery while still sentinent; a hook through the ankle and hung upside down. Then their throats are cut.
Halal and Kosher slaughter on the other hand, is one cut, from an appropriately trained person and is virtually painless.
Incidentally, on farms in New Zealand, a single animal for fsmily consumption will often be despatched with a single cut

Nobetterthansheoughttobe · 28/08/2022 12:41

Stun not stub!

EleanorShellstrop28 · 28/08/2022 12:42

Well of course it's not unreasonable to not want to eat it.

Similarly, it's not unreasonable for restaurants to serve it.

You'll just have to decide whether you want to eat it, go veggie, or eat elsewhere. Nothing else you can do about it.

HappyHamsters · 28/08/2022 12:42

This is why I am now a vegetarian

Allthestarsabovemyhead · 28/08/2022 12:44

Indian restaurants are often owned by Bangladeshi Muslims. So they’ve always served halal meat

Sceptre86 · 28/08/2022 12:49

Oh get over yourself there are plenty of Indian places that don't serve halal meat. Plenty of other restaurants, Italian, Chinese don't serve halal meat.

BadlydoneHelen · 28/08/2022 12:50

I think you'll find that most catering meat in schools is now halal for ease so hard to avoid if you have children

FizzyTango · 28/08/2022 12:50

In order for meat to be halal there are other considerations such as better welfare and the animal must be appropriately fed and watered before it is killed as a respect to the animal's life.
Whereas in other slaughterhouses animals are starved and not given food or water when they are transported to their deaths to reduce fecal output and make them easier to gut. The last few days of an animal's life is even more cruel than the rest of it. So for me halal is preferable.
Also the clean cut for halal is swift, far preferable to being stunned.
If we eat meat produced on a mass scale, it is horribly cruel anyway so people need to stop being sanctimonious about it. Because you are just splitting hairs at this point and racial bias is probably having more of an infuence than you realise.

BadlydoneHelen · 28/08/2022 12:52

Also chicken in KFC Pizza Express Dominos to name but a few

KeepYaHeadUp · 28/08/2022 12:54

Enb76 · 28/08/2022 12:35

I don’t see the issue with halal - you’re eating meat. I would rather people took greater interest in how animals live rather than how they die. Death is a fleeting moment in an animals life so I’m not fussed about the method of slaughter. I care a lot that my meat is high welfare.

Exactly this. When so many people suddenly care so much about how an animal is killed they refuse to eat the meat, but have absolutely no idea how the animals they so eat have actually lived I become very cynical.

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 28/08/2022 12:55

FizzyTango · 28/08/2022 12:50

In order for meat to be halal there are other considerations such as better welfare and the animal must be appropriately fed and watered before it is killed as a respect to the animal's life.
Whereas in other slaughterhouses animals are starved and not given food or water when they are transported to their deaths to reduce fecal output and make them easier to gut. The last few days of an animal's life is even more cruel than the rest of it. So for me halal is preferable.
Also the clean cut for halal is swift, far preferable to being stunned.
If we eat meat produced on a mass scale, it is horribly cruel anyway so people need to stop being sanctimonious about it. Because you are just splitting hairs at this point and racial bias is probably having more of an infuence than you realise.

Was going type out a post but this says everything I would have tried to say much better.

If you've an issue with halal you should have an issue with all slaughter.

KeepYaHeadUp · 28/08/2022 12:55

FizzyTango · 28/08/2022 12:50

In order for meat to be halal there are other considerations such as better welfare and the animal must be appropriately fed and watered before it is killed as a respect to the animal's life.
Whereas in other slaughterhouses animals are starved and not given food or water when they are transported to their deaths to reduce fecal output and make them easier to gut. The last few days of an animal's life is even more cruel than the rest of it. So for me halal is preferable.
Also the clean cut for halal is swift, far preferable to being stunned.
If we eat meat produced on a mass scale, it is horribly cruel anyway so people need to stop being sanctimonious about it. Because you are just splitting hairs at this point and racial bias is probably having more of an infuence than you realise.

Perfectly put

Nobetterthansheoughttobe · 28/08/2022 12:56

FizzyTango · 28/08/2022 12:50

In order for meat to be halal there are other considerations such as better welfare and the animal must be appropriately fed and watered before it is killed as a respect to the animal's life.
Whereas in other slaughterhouses animals are starved and not given food or water when they are transported to their deaths to reduce fecal output and make them easier to gut. The last few days of an animal's life is even more cruel than the rest of it. So for me halal is preferable.
Also the clean cut for halal is swift, far preferable to being stunned.
If we eat meat produced on a mass scale, it is horribly cruel anyway so people need to stop being sanctimonious about it. Because you are just splitting hairs at this point and racial bias is probably having more of an infuence than you realise.

Well said!

chillipenguin · 28/08/2022 12:56

Seems fair enough, eat what you like

MysteriousMonkey · 28/08/2022 12:57

FizzyTango · 28/08/2022 12:50

In order for meat to be halal there are other considerations such as better welfare and the animal must be appropriately fed and watered before it is killed as a respect to the animal's life.
Whereas in other slaughterhouses animals are starved and not given food or water when they are transported to their deaths to reduce fecal output and make them easier to gut. The last few days of an animal's life is even more cruel than the rest of it. So for me halal is preferable.
Also the clean cut for halal is swift, far preferable to being stunned.
If we eat meat produced on a mass scale, it is horribly cruel anyway so people need to stop being sanctimonious about it. Because you are just splitting hairs at this point and racial bias is probably having more of an infuence than you realise.

Exactly this!

houseonthehill · 28/08/2022 12:58

The vast majority of halal meat is stunned before killing. There is very little difference between the two in terms of welfare - halal might even be better than non-halal. If you eat meat, there's no reason to seek out non-halal meat at all. Besides, a lot of prepared food containing meat is halal these days, as it's simpler to have a single process.

brightnesses · 28/08/2022 12:58

FizzyTango · 28/08/2022 12:50

In order for meat to be halal there are other considerations such as better welfare and the animal must be appropriately fed and watered before it is killed as a respect to the animal's life.
Whereas in other slaughterhouses animals are starved and not given food or water when they are transported to their deaths to reduce fecal output and make them easier to gut. The last few days of an animal's life is even more cruel than the rest of it. So for me halal is preferable.
Also the clean cut for halal is swift, far preferable to being stunned.
If we eat meat produced on a mass scale, it is horribly cruel anyway so people need to stop being sanctimonious about it. Because you are just splitting hairs at this point and racial bias is probably having more of an infuence than you realise.

This, this and this

TimeForTeaAndG · 28/08/2022 12:58

So, OP, you don't actually say what your objection to halal meat is. Can you elaborate?

SpinningFloppa · 28/08/2022 12:58

BadlydoneHelen · 28/08/2022 12:50

I think you'll find that most catering meat in schools is now halal for ease so hard to avoid if you have children

In our school the halal meat is only given to the Muslim children