To not want to eat halal meat?

[PinkRiceKrispies]

Most restaurants serve it now, especially my favourite which is Indian food. Finding it more and more difficult to find somewhere that doesn't?

I bet the poor animal is ‘fussed’ 🙄

Anecdotally I know two people who decades apart visited slaughterhouses - neither ate meat again. They were non halal. But the scale of the death I think was too much for them to cope with. It's awful to think it happens every single day. I don't eat meat because I know I couldn't kill an animal whether it's stunned or not.

Halal is the better option as PP said and dying for food is not the problem (food chains, predators etc.) it is their abysmal standard of living that is the problem.

If you want to eat meat, you should be prepared and able to cleanly kill you chicken, rabbit, lamb etc. yourself.
DD had a work placement on an organic farm, killed a chicken and is still omnivore.
If you cannot do this, become a vegetarian.

I don’t think you should be eating meat if you care about animals suffering during slaughter.

There have been many studies done on halal vs non halal in the UK and the results are basically they’re both as bad as each other.

Many non halal slaughter houses also slit throats if the stunning doesn’t work and most halal places will stun before slitting throats.

Tbh it doesn’t matter because it’s not the way they are killed that is the issue.

The way they are treated before they are killed is often much, much worse.

Have you ever researched what happens in any slaughter house?
If you care about animals why don't you just stop eating them altogether and then you won't have to worry about how your dinner was killed? There is no 'nice' way to kill that doesn't want to die.

This. UK slaughter houses are cruel. Really nasty. Halal isn’t worse.

Aww, so you only want to eat meat that comes from slaughterhouses where the animals are hugged regularly, read bedtime stories and go quietly to sleep dreaming of rainbows and unicorns?
None of the meat on your plate got there without suffering and death ffs 🙄

You still haven’t said exactly what your problem with it is, OP. As for other people who don’t eat Halal for religious reasons, how does that work with things like oven chips which are certified halal.

Why are you concerned about eating halal meat OP?

My favourite lamb is halal😋 and I never want to eat olives🤢. Different strokes/tastes and all that @PinkRiceKrispies. You do you pet.

@Prokupatuscrakedatus

Oh don't be ridiculous.

@PriamFarrl

I dont think over chips are prayed over?

Honestly, people who eat meat and yet are disparaging about halal have no idea how animals are processed in UK. I work in this industry and honestly, get off your high horse and go vegan or something.

As all the supermarkets said the same, I just make sure any meat I buy is raised and slaughtered in the UK.

I agree.

Animals in UK slaughter houses still suffer a lot abuse before death but we have much stricter rules in the UK than other countries.

I believe all slaughter houses in the UK must have cameras now after some undercover cameras filmed some awful abuse.

And as the PP said make sure the animals are raised in the UK as some animals are raised elsewhere and then have a horrendous journey in cramped conditions to come here and be slaughtered.

We should not be getting meat from abroad anyway. We have plenty of farmers and we need to reduce the carbon footprint. As well as ensure the basic standards of animal welfare are met.

I have no issues with Halal meat per se, in fact, I agree about it having higher standards of welfare.

One thing that boils my piss though, is when outlets (franchises) specialising in cuisines that feature pork (I am thinking Mexican and Spanish tapas mostly) get bought up and run by people who then impose halal restrictions. FFS lamb is not an acceptable substitute for pork EVER (full disclosure I don't really like lamb). I mean I can live with turkey bacon on my pizza (just about,) but lamb ribs subbed in for pork ribs are properly horrible and lamb fajitas are just shit.

Generally, I don't understand the point of buying these franchises and running them as halal when the cuisines are so intrinsically pork-focused, it just seems rude, I mean why bother? Just go for a franchise in a cuisine that isn't going to be changed beyond all recognition by a refusal to use pork.

If you look at the packaging for some mass manufactured food then you will see it has the certified halal logo on it.

I agree, and I’ve always bought meat from the farm for this reason. (until I couldn’t afford it, so I’m eating hardly any meat anyway now) so I’m not precisely aware of the procedure. What is the difference the UK’s usual practice - from an animal welfare perspective? I know there are prayers, which I’ve no objection to of course, but that’s not all, I assume?

@PriamFarrl

Can't say I've noticed.

But again, I doubt very much oven chips need prayed over.

Hypocrite

You should look. There is a lot of frozen and prepacked food that has the halal logo on it. I will be honest and say I don’t know what it means but I assumed it was like when you have kosher stuff (you will find it in the supermarket at Passover) that is just every day stuff like sugar.

As a Muslim, I say most of these fake halal signs aren't really halal anyway so I wouldn't be worried if I was in your position.

Well unless you can give an alternative reason, I'm afraid that's a fair conclusion for people to make

It's no more barbaric than the usual meat industry practices so what difference does it make?

Halal meat should absolutely not be served in schools or public sector staff canteens. It's depriving non-Halal slaughterhouses of a major source of income

Interesting point; I hadn't considered it from that POV

Are the slaughterhouses supplying the big buyers different companies to the non-halal ones though, or are does the meat come from a separate section of the same ones? (I honestly don't know ...)

You'd be surprised...

What ones are fake?