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AIUB to have woken my DH today ?

293 replies

trampolinegame · 27/08/2022 07:18

He works a lot. Has maybe one day off a week, sometimes one day every two weeks.

When he is home, he's not particularly helpful with the kids or forthcoming.

I take care of everything else. Nights/ days. We have a small baby and a toddler. On his days off I always let him sleep as long as he wants, while I wrangle the kids by myself. I sleep with the baby and he gets the nice bed to himself, every night. Uninterrupted sleep. While I slog it in the rubbish bed with the baby. Because he has to be up early for work etc.

I have to ask him to do everything if he does partake at all in family life. He'll never just change the babies nappy while he's home or play with the toddler really. He just retreats. Always has other stuff to do for work etc.

Anyhow, this morning I saw he had again closed his bedroom door on us. He fell asleep with the door open, but then obviously closed it when he heard the baby this morning or in the night etc.

It just pissed me off. He's done it before. One morning I was really losing it from lack of sleep and I was just shouting to myself and rather than coming to help / see what's happening, he just closed his door on us / me.

Anyway, so this morning I just opened his door and let the toddler go in. He's now really angry with me.

OP posts:
ReneBumsWombats · 27/08/2022 11:56

What will happen when you're back at work?

Mummyford · 27/08/2022 11:58

@ArtistViv

Whether you have kids or not, that was a really excellent post.

MillyWithaY · 27/08/2022 11:59

The person who works 6/13 straight trumps the person who stays at home for lie ins.
It is mentally and physically more taxing working every day.

Really?!, says who? That old chestnut of the big import man with his big import job who needs total rest when he's at home really doesn't wash anymore, now that most mothers work too. I went back to work for a rest when my DC were little! Being at home with small children is far more tiring than most paid work, and it's 24/7.

AhNowTed · 27/08/2022 12:01

MillyWithaY · 27/08/2022 11:59

The person who works 6/13 straight trumps the person who stays at home for lie ins.
It is mentally and physically more taxing working every day.

Really?!, says who? That old chestnut of the big import man with his big import job who needs total rest when he's at home really doesn't wash anymore, now that most mothers work too. I went back to work for a rest when my DC were little! Being at home with small children is far more tiring than most paid work, and it's 24/7.

Agree entirely.

I work full time and only have to think about myself.

Caring for two small children is fucking exhausting.

SunnyD44 · 27/08/2022 12:06

Being at home with small children is far more tiring than most paid work, and it's 24/7.

Unless you are a single parent then dealing with children isn’t 24/7.

I work full time and only have to think about myself.

If someone works full time and has DCs but still only thinks about themselves then that makes them a crap parent.

Novum · 27/08/2022 12:08

The person who works 6/13 straight trumps the person who stays at home for lie ins.
It is mentally and physically more taxing working every day.

If you’re at home all day then you can nap or have a lazy day. You can’t do that at work obviously.

You simply cannot generalise like that. You certainly can't assume that looking after a baby will allow a lazy day. Even when the baby is asleep, chances are you are rushing around trying to get all the stuff done that you can't do whilst they're awake.

Likewise not all jobs are mentally and physically more taxing. When I went back to work after maternity leave, it was lovely being able to concentrate on what I was doing and plan things rather than basically reacting to the baby all day, and just being able to get up and go out when I wanted to rather than taking half an hour to get the baby ready was an absolute luxury. Yes, my work was and is stressful but it's also very interesting, and with the best will in the world playing with a baby or reading the same book for the millionth time does pall a tad. And, face it, lots of jobs are actually pretty easy and non-taxing.

The big question mark here is whether OP's husband actually has to work as much as he does or whether he chooses to do that to escape childminding and housekeeping duties.

Mummyford · 27/08/2022 12:08

SunnyD44 · 27/08/2022 12:06

Being at home with small children is far more tiring than most paid work, and it's 24/7.

Unless you are a single parent then dealing with children isn’t 24/7.

I work full time and only have to think about myself.

If someone works full time and has DCs but still only thinks about themselves then that makes them a crap parent.

@SunnyD44

But that's exactly the OP's point. She shouldn't be a single parent, but essentially is when it comes to dealing with the children.

Goosygandy · 27/08/2022 12:08

SunnyD44 · 27/08/2022 09:45

@Somethingsnappy so are you honestly telling me that if DH was a SAHP and OP came on here and said she’d had her first day off in 13 days and DH woke her up at 7am to keep him company - you would say that’s fine?

You’d say good on DH as him being a SAHP means he is more entitled to a lie in than you who has just done 13 days?

I’m struggling to believe you would.

Have you read the bit about the OP encouraging him to rest on his days off, when he's not interested in engaging with the children anyway. And the bit where the OP has never had a lie in or a break from the kids, unless it's by going to stay with family. Except the DH doesn't want her to do that and get a rest, because it doesn't suit him. He's really that selfish.

And having a weekend with older children is very, very different from a weekend with a baby and a toddler. It's also different when you have another adult in the house who won't help. She'll be cooking and cleaning up after him too, which increases her workload and her resentment. From the sound of things he'll want things to do be done his way, too, which makes things harder for her.

You cannot compare your very different situation to the OP's.

nomoremsniceperson · 27/08/2022 12:09

OP, I've read all your posts.

LTB

Novum · 27/08/2022 12:09

If someone works full time and has DCs but still only thinks about themselves then that makes them a crap parent.

Rubbish. If your baby is being looked after by someone you trust, then most of the time when you are at work you can, and indeed should, concentrate on work.

nomoremsniceperson · 27/08/2022 12:11

You're basically a single parent already. If you leave him you'll be doing about the same amount but you won't have to deal with a lazy miserable annoying resentful git who apparently didn't realise that fathering 2 kids meant he had to do a bit of parenting

SunnyD44 · 27/08/2022 12:15

Have you read the bit about the OP encouraging him to rest on his days off, when he's not interested in engaging with the children anyway. And the bit where the OP has never had a lie in or a break from the kids, unless it's by going to stay with family. Except the DH doesn't want her to do that and get a rest, because it doesn't suit him. He's really that selfish.

Yes and I’ve not stuck up for her DH once apart from saying she is BU to wake him up at 7am if he’s been working 13 days on the trot.

Nothing else have I stuck up for him or gone against OP but posters are piling on me me because I dared to say YABU to OP’s question and many MNers think if you have a vagina you must always be in the right and everyone else needs to also agree.

It’s ironic that posters are saying she needs a lie in because she’s at home all day with the DCs yet her DH doesn’t.

daisychain01 · 27/08/2022 12:15

If I remember correctly your DH is the policeman who made you and your LO sleep on the sofa while he has the proper bed.

at the time, it was pointed out that anyone who prioritises their sleep over their wife and child is a shite parent and DH. He isn't going to change. Sorry, he has no incentive to, it's nice having you doing all the wife work while he can swan off and not have to do the boring stuff.

Topgub · 27/08/2022 12:16

@Mummyford

Yeah I worked full time (ish) in a hugely physically and mentally demanding role with a baby and toddler.

Just being a sahm would have been much easier.

lanthanum · 27/08/2022 12:17

If he's employed, check that his work schedule is legal: www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work.
If he's self-employed, perhaps point out that there is a reason why employees have limits.

Goldbar · 27/08/2022 12:17

SunnyD44 · 27/08/2022 11:46

That is the biggest load of sexist rubbish I've ever read, which sounds like it comes from the Privileged Male viewpoint of the 1940s. In 2022, I think most people, not just women, know that being a SAHM is as hard if not harder work that full time work.

Being a SAHP is a choice though.

Most parents would love to be a SAHP but they don’t have that choice.

If someone finds being a parent harder than being in work then they can go back to work and reduce the time they’re at home with the DCs.

My sister found raising her DCs more difficult than being at work so she chose to have less maternity leave and her DH chose to be the SAHP instead.

Most couples I know both work an equal amount of hours.

But interestingly, there's statistical evidence that most couples only do equal childcare and domestic labour if the male parent is a SAHP and the female parent works. So often the female parent is still doing 3/4 of the overall work.

Working equal hours outside the home rarely results in working equal hours within it.

Womblealongwithme · 27/08/2022 12:19

many MNers think if you have a vagina you must always be in the right and everyone else needs to also agree.

@SunnyD44 genuinely, who on this thread has even slightly indicated that this is the case?

MynameisJune · 27/08/2022 12:20

@trampolinegame does he work for the railway by chance? Or similar industry?

My DH works on the railway and his schedule is crazy at the minute, so busy because there’s so many people who have left his company. He has been away all week, but comes home and takes on responsibility for the kids, does house work, cooks meals and has no problem having them whilst I nap/go to the gym/go out with friends.

I also work and in no way would I put up with this shit from him. If he won’t listen can you email him or write him a letter? Sometimes DH and I communicate better by text because it takes a lot
of the emotion out of it.

Meraas · 27/08/2022 12:22

So he gets to pretend to his family, friends, colleagues and the world at large that he is a family man, at your expense?

I would be giving him an ultimatum that he steps up or leaves. And mean it.

Orangello · 27/08/2022 12:23

He gets angry when baby wakes him up? His own baby? He does understand how they work?

OP, what will happen when you go back to work? Will your sleep suddenly become also important? Will he then engage with children? Or will it all continue as it is now, just you working a full day on top of everything? Ask him.

Goosygandy · 27/08/2022 12:24

SunnyD44 · 27/08/2022 12:15

Have you read the bit about the OP encouraging him to rest on his days off, when he's not interested in engaging with the children anyway. And the bit where the OP has never had a lie in or a break from the kids, unless it's by going to stay with family. Except the DH doesn't want her to do that and get a rest, because it doesn't suit him. He's really that selfish.

Yes and I’ve not stuck up for her DH once apart from saying she is BU to wake him up at 7am if he’s been working 13 days on the trot.

Nothing else have I stuck up for him or gone against OP but posters are piling on me me because I dared to say YABU to OP’s question and many MNers think if you have a vagina you must always be in the right and everyone else needs to also agree.

It’s ironic that posters are saying she needs a lie in because she’s at home all day with the DCs yet her DH doesn’t.

No people are not saying that he should never have a lie in. They are saying she should sometimes get a break, the way he often gets a break.

You are also telling the OP to suck it up and that it's easier to be at home than at work, without taking into account the full circumstances, so stop being so disingenuous. It's the usual claptrap of how much easier it is for SAHPs so they should put up with any old shit, however you dress it up.

trampolinegame · 27/08/2022 12:28

Orangello · 27/08/2022 12:23

He gets angry when baby wakes him up? His own baby? He does understand how they work?

OP, what will happen when you go back to work? Will your sleep suddenly become also important? Will he then engage with children? Or will it all continue as it is now, just you working a full day on top of everything? Ask him.

Yeah I really don't know. I'm quite worried about going back. Hopefully work situation will be a bit easier then.

OP posts:
neshtastic · 27/08/2022 12:30

Somethingneedstochange · 27/08/2022 09:54

My husband said to me this morning as he got the kids ready for a day out "They'll never remember.
All this stuff we do with them, the places we take them...they won't remember much of it".

He is right. They wont.
Not much of it anyway. But still it matters.
Because he and I will remember.

Someday in the future,

As the door opens and our son introduces his first girlfriend or boyfriend, we will remember a time when all that mattered in his world was his mum and dad. And that how we treated him painted the canvass of how he sees this first relationship.

As our teenage daughter runs up the stairs claiming we dont understand her, we will remember that all it took when she was 5-years-old was a kiss, a cuddle and soothing words and that although she has no memory of it, she returns for those words aged 15.

We will remember as we choose the paint that will redecorate the hall, that we dont have to worry about the expensive paint that you can rub handprints from anymore.
And I will yearn, I will ache, for a tiny handprint on my wall.

And as I watch my children with their children, I will remember that every trip to the park, every day we bombed them with love, every time we played hide and seek, shaped the map that they walked upon,
in their quest to be a good parent themselves.

And as I walk along the beach someday in years to come, my face lined with the creases of my thoughts, my moments of panic, my moments of joy, I will feel the hot sand on the soles of my feet and remember my child walking to the sea with his dad on a day that I thought would last forever, but has now long gone.

I'll remember.

And my darling child, I will tell you what you dont remember...

Holding your 8lb body against my skin in a feeling that would defy what I ever thought possible.

Holding your hand as you took your first steps. Away from me. Towards the world.

Holding your waist as you navigated a pathway that had imaginary crocodiles trying to snap your ankles.

Holding it together when your daddy threw you up into the air, you squealing with delight, me squirming with anticipation.

Holding a book, a breast pump, a baby and a hand whilst I read you a story.

Holding back the tears when you had me filled with pride at your school play.

And you may say "I dont remember any of that".

No.

But I will.

And I watch you transition from child to teenager to adult to parent to home owner, I will know that what I remember, keeps you close to me.

And what you dont remember, made you, you.

And no matter how old you are, precious little child, should you find yourself up in the air, call us.

Daddy knows how to catch you. Remember?

Mam and Dad 💛

Puketastic

DonnyBurrito · 27/08/2022 12:30

The fact that he just wants to lie about on the sofa ALL DAY on the ONLY day his family get him to themselves would be a dealbreaker for me. Does he think being a zombie infront of TV is good, quality time with his children? If that's all they ever see of him, it's a terrible example being set for them of how a 'man' behaves. Especially if you have any boys... they will just emulate him. They will see him as disconnected and lazy. They will think that's how all men should behave.

If I'd been away from my children for 13 days on the trot, there's not a chance I'd be shutting the door on them or being angry at seeing them in the morning. I'd be delighted to see them. I'd WANT to spend time with them. I'd have missed them! Does he not miss his children?

I really feel for you. He sounds a fucking arsehole to be honest.

Maireas · 27/08/2022 12:33

@neshtastic - I had to scroll quite a bit to read your last point, but it did make me laugh! 😂