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Scrunch bum leggings while teaching children.

195 replies

thatisnotyours · 25/08/2022 01:07

There's a discussion going on about this at an Australian parenting site and I'm surprised at some of the comments tbh. I was wondering what MN thinks.

www.everybump.com.au/community/topic/7784-scrunch-butt-leggings-when-teaching-children/

I don't think that they're inappropriate at all and recoil at the idea of policing what women (especially young women) wear.

YABU: it's not appropriate for an educational setting.

YANBU: it's not a problem

OP posts:
Maisa45 · 25/08/2022 10:21

I have a pair of these but only wear them with long tops as I feel too self conscious. Doesn't help that they're bright yellow 😂

Maisa45 · 25/08/2022 10:25

Butteryflakycrust83 · 25/08/2022 09:33

Absolutely not, and I am not a prude. Whats next, camel toe leggings? What about some nice male ball enhancing leggings?

If a teenager isnt allowed to wear them then neither should the teacher.

😂😂

Have you seen some of the camel toes sported by some of the insta fitness models in their skintight shorts? I'm no prude but I just can't imagine being OK with the entire outline of my vagina being clearly displayed to the general public. Plus it looks uncomfortable!

Cautiouselectric · 25/08/2022 10:26

I have seen these in public a couple of times and though I am not keen on policing people‘s clothing, no one carries these off! They’re freaking hideous. My friend has an awesome and fit body and they made even her look ridiculous.
i would honestly laugh if I saw a teacher, someone who should be taken seriously, wearing these in front of kids.

EthicDiss · 25/08/2022 10:30

They aren't the teacher wearing them, they are Uni students, probably doing hours towards a placement.

Society does just love telling young women how they can and cannot dress.

oakleaffy · 25/08/2022 10:34

They look like someone has bent over with no knickers on, and stood up and their bum cheeks have taken a ''Bite'' out of the fabric.

SudocremOnEverything · 25/08/2022 10:37

EthicDiss · 25/08/2022 10:30

They aren't the teacher wearing them, they are Uni students, probably doing hours towards a placement.

Society does just love telling young women how they can and cannot dress.

universities are very clear about professional standards of dress and conduct for students representing them on placements or similar activities. They do get complaints from head teachers about all kinds of obviously inappropriate things (and it’s really embarrassing having to apologise and explain that they were told to dress professionally and that a crop top wouldn’t be acceptable for a secondary school environment, etc).

It’s not about yelling young women what they can wear. She can wear them all the time in the rest of her life. But we all have to change how we dress to suit the circumstances sometimes.

Not wearing clothes that draw maximum attention to your arse cleavage when you’re working with kids as part of a school-university scheme is a fairly basic premise.

oakleaffy · 25/08/2022 10:40

Leftbutcameback · 25/08/2022 09:27

Also is scrunch bum the proper term for them? You learn something new every day!

Scrunch bum sounds like the anal sphincter of a cat, that tight little pursed pink circle, with adherent detritus..
Scrunch bum will go the way of all trends.. and disappear..up it's own arse!

SmileyClare · 25/08/2022 10:53

Bums are prominent in any style of leggings

There's prominent and then there's this Shock Grin

JudgeJ · 25/08/2022 10:54

Johnnysgirl · 25/08/2022 01:24

I had to google these... Christ, the models either have gigantic arses or the leggings are very, very weird Hmm

I had to google them too, what lard-arses! When I was teaching I worked with someone whose natural derriere looked like this, I've often wondered how she went on when everyone started copying her!

Abhannmor · 25/08/2022 10:56

A lot of responses are reminiscent of the old - ' if you are staring at my erect penis outlined by this sparkly dress , then you're the one with the problem ' line deployed by a certain group of people.

Mamafromthebeach · 25/08/2022 10:59

Just to clarify ( I have read the entire linked thread) - the “teacher” was a student assisting children in an exercise class at a University - so assisting with movement etc in an exercise class - hence the need to wear exercise gear. The young worker was not teaching in a classroom all day. Just taking a sport class where actual exercise was involved.

not sure if that alters anyone’s view.

For my part - I would be ok with them being worn by a sport coach with the uniform polo shirt.

Porcupineintherough · 25/08/2022 11:16

@Abhannmor quite!

Fritilleries · 25/08/2022 11:30

EthicDiss · 25/08/2022 10:30

They aren't the teacher wearing them, they are Uni students, probably doing hours towards a placement.

Society does just love telling young women how they can and cannot dress.

If they're on placement, they should expect to uphold professional standards in both their conduct, attitude and dress code.

etulosba · 25/08/2022 11:35

Also is scrunch bum the proper term for them?

Looking at some of the pics on Google, horse’s arse leggings would be a more appropriate term.

makeupaddict1 · 25/08/2022 11:35

Definitely not appropriate for school!

Mamafromthebeach · 25/08/2022 11:48

Fritilleries · 25/08/2022 11:30

If they're on placement, they should expect to uphold professional standards in both their conduct, attitude and dress code.

We can assume that tights/leggings are part of the dress code. The OP in the linked thread says they wear tights each week.

Scrunchedbum · 25/08/2022 11:48

etulosba · 25/08/2022 11:35

Also is scrunch bum the proper term for them?

Looking at some of the pics on Google, horse’s arse leggings would be a more appropriate term.

😆

keeprunning55 · 25/08/2022 11:58

I think it’s incredibly sad that women can’t wear whatever they like without them being questioned if it’s appropriate.

Everyone has a bum-I don’t see the issue. My dd school stopped the girls wearing skorts because the male teachers found it uncomfortable-the problem here is the male teachers, not the girls for wearing skirts for PE. It’s like we’re stepping back in time!

SudocremOnEverything · 25/08/2022 12:02

Mamafromthebeach · 25/08/2022 11:48

We can assume that tights/leggings are part of the dress code. The OP in the linked thread says they wear tights each week.

Not all leggings and tights are equal though. You make your choices based on the situation.

If you turn up to teach primary school children in a mini skirt, fishnets, platform sandals, push up bra and a blouse unbuttoned to show your cleavage, is that meeting a dress code that allows skirts, tights and blouses? And you have to wear a bra, so it shouldn’t matter how much cleavage is on display?

It’s not about ‘policing what women wear’ in the simplistic way people want it to be. Any more than your child’s swimming teacher turning up in a mankini is just a matter of his personal expression.

EthicDiss · 25/08/2022 12:05

Given that a member of the University staff would have been there and seen what the student was wearing, then I think we can assume it was within the dress code standards set by the University...

SudocremOnEverything · 25/08/2022 12:09

EthicDiss · 25/08/2022 12:05

Given that a member of the University staff would have been there and seen what the student was wearing, then I think we can assume it was within the dress code standards set by the University...

Not necessarily. They may have gone away and worked out what to do to ensure that the students dress appropriately in future, rather than cancel the session because they sent the student home.

And, actually, no. Generally the university staff aren’t there when a student is on placement. Instead they get emails and phone calls from head teachers to tell them that their students turned up dressed for a night out/were late/were rude to the teacher supervising them/etc. You’d think this would be rare, but my experience is that sending 100 students on a one day school placement will result in discussions with unhappy HTs about at least 5 students. And that’s with several prep sessions for the students setting out expectations.

Mamafromthebeach · 25/08/2022 12:14

SudocremOnEverything · 25/08/2022 12:09

Not necessarily. They may have gone away and worked out what to do to ensure that the students dress appropriately in future, rather than cancel the session because they sent the student home.

And, actually, no. Generally the university staff aren’t there when a student is on placement. Instead they get emails and phone calls from head teachers to tell them that their students turned up dressed for a night out/were late/were rude to the teacher supervising them/etc. You’d think this would be rare, but my experience is that sending 100 students on a one day school placement will result in discussions with unhappy HTs about at least 5 students. And that’s with several prep sessions for the students setting out expectations.

The thread did mention that the supervisor was there. Did you read it?

SudocremOnEverything · 25/08/2022 12:20

The whole thread on another forum? No.

It’s still the case that in most instances, the tutor in charge at university isn’t supervising students on a placement. And it is the case that an alarming number of students do behave pretty shockingly on placement, so they do have to deal with that stuff.

It also is the case that leggings are not all equal. If you can see through them to someone’s pants, they’re not going to be suitable for a work-related activity. If they’re special ones designed to accentuate your arse and make it look sexier, they’re probably not ok either.

The rush to defend women’s right to dress as if the context doesn’t matter actually undermines all the actual problems - like telling women they shouldn’t dress this way if their arse is too flabby/flat etc. it’s the context that matters, not the body in the clothing.

Scrunchedbum · 25/08/2022 12:32

EthicDiss · 25/08/2022 12:05

Given that a member of the University staff would have been there and seen what the student was wearing, then I think we can assume it was within the dress code standards set by the University...

Aussie OP here. Not necessarily. Yes the supervisor was there. He might have already spoken to the student about the leggings. The student might have had a valid reason for not being in black leggings eg they had a hole in them or the washing machine ate them. He might not have known what to say or how to deal with it and been waiting to discuss it with a colleague.

Regardless of clothing the uni student was there and her assigned child was there so of course she participated. They’re being marked on how they interact with and instruct the child. She wasn’t going to be sent away or prevented from taking part. The parent would be pissed off if they’ve brought their child there and then couldn’t take part, plus the parents are paying for the classes. The uni student actually did great with the child and had him doing activities he hadn’t managed in the previous weeks. Child looked super proud of himself, as he should. Myself and some other mums cheered him on and encouraged him.

@SudocremOnEverything Your posts are spot on and you explain my concerns well.

Ozgirl75 · 25/08/2022 12:50

There’s a mid 20s woman in my gym who wears these and I have to say, her figure is amazing and even me as a happily married straight woman did look at her bottom in that cartoon eyes popping out of my skull way the first time I saw them. Her butt was just so…..there! I mean I could see the whole shape!
I can understand fully why men love women in them 😀