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Scrunch bum leggings while teaching children.

195 replies

thatisnotyours · 25/08/2022 01:07

There's a discussion going on about this at an Australian parenting site and I'm surprised at some of the comments tbh. I was wondering what MN thinks.

www.everybump.com.au/community/topic/7784-scrunch-butt-leggings-when-teaching-children/

I don't think that they're inappropriate at all and recoil at the idea of policing what women (especially young women) wear.

YABU: it's not appropriate for an educational setting.

YANBU: it's not a problem

OP posts:
Sunnyqueen · 25/08/2022 12:53

I honestly could not bring myself to give a shit over these leggings. There are plenty more ridiculous garments a teacher could be wearing.

SmileyClare · 25/08/2022 13:20

There are plenty more ridiculous garments a teacher could be wearing

So where do you draw the line then? If "we've all got bums, I don't see the issue, maybe don't look if you're offended" argument are these ok for a male teacher?

CoffeeWithCheese · 25/08/2022 13:32

Can't understand why the fuck anyone would WANT to wear them while teaching... no pockets!

QuestionableMouse · 25/08/2022 13:34

All the models in the pics have a gorgeous figure, but those leggings make their arses look like two melons in a pillow case.

EthicDiss · 25/08/2022 13:39

Also an Aussie Uni student who has done placements - placements on campus always had staff there and clothes were checked before we started (mind you this was a few years ago).

Inadequate clothing = no placement. There was always a way around a missing student on placement.

Sunnyqueen · 25/08/2022 13:39

SmileyClare · 25/08/2022 13:20

There are plenty more ridiculous garments a teacher could be wearing

So where do you draw the line then? If "we've all got bums, I don't see the issue, maybe don't look if you're offended" argument are these ok for a male teacher?

No, obviously they fall under the line of 'ridiculous garment' as well you know or you wouldn't have posted them to try and prove your point.

SmileyClare · 25/08/2022 13:42

My point was Where do you draw the line? Either there's some sort of respectable dress code or every teacher/ children's sports trainer has their arse out and we all have to be cool about it.

Sunnyqueen · 25/08/2022 13:46

SmileyClare · 25/08/2022 13:42

My point was Where do you draw the line? Either there's some sort of respectable dress code or every teacher/ children's sports trainer has their arse out and we all have to be cool about it.

Well that's where you draw the line obviously - leggings are fine, leather chaps are not. There is your line.

SmileyClare · 25/08/2022 13:58

Leggings are fine, chaps are not

Fair enough but you'd think teachers, coaches or trainees would use their own judgement to decide whether their attire is suitable.

Now you can buy sheer body shaping leggings designed to sit inside your arse crack to fetishise it, I'd hope they'd leave those for their day off.

Let's not pretend they're just leggings.

CulturePigeon · 25/08/2022 14:01

I get your concern about 'what young women wear', but for both sexes some clothing can be sexualised - isn't it disingenuous to pretend otherwise? I mean, if a male teacher wore budgie-smuggler-effect trousers or tracksuit bottoms, that would cause equal consternation. Or if he came in wearing his trouser belt under his butt, as some teenage boys used to do? My point is that it's not necessarily a gender-specific problem - there are some areas of the body which are culturally seen as provocative or sexually significant (breasts and backsides for women, crotch and backside for men...and maybe others!). I'm not in favour of children being sexualised or having their attention drawn to these things at a very young age.

I worked with a teacher who wore leggings which, on her legs, looked opaque but were stretched very, very thinly over her backside (like wearing a pair of sheer tights). The result was very eye-catching from behind, especially since she wore a thong underneath them. It was frankly embarrassing for everyone - a brave colleague did point it out to her, but she didn't seem to think it was a problem.

Take out the 'women should be able to wear anything they like' argument for a minute. There really are some clothes which make it difficult to know where to look. There's a place for sexy, and I don't think it's in professional life - but I@m old fashioned!

Fritilleries · 25/08/2022 15:52

CulturePigeon · 25/08/2022 14:01

I get your concern about 'what young women wear', but for both sexes some clothing can be sexualised - isn't it disingenuous to pretend otherwise? I mean, if a male teacher wore budgie-smuggler-effect trousers or tracksuit bottoms, that would cause equal consternation. Or if he came in wearing his trouser belt under his butt, as some teenage boys used to do? My point is that it's not necessarily a gender-specific problem - there are some areas of the body which are culturally seen as provocative or sexually significant (breasts and backsides for women, crotch and backside for men...and maybe others!). I'm not in favour of children being sexualised or having their attention drawn to these things at a very young age.

I worked with a teacher who wore leggings which, on her legs, looked opaque but were stretched very, very thinly over her backside (like wearing a pair of sheer tights). The result was very eye-catching from behind, especially since she wore a thong underneath them. It was frankly embarrassing for everyone - a brave colleague did point it out to her, but she didn't seem to think it was a problem.

Take out the 'women should be able to wear anything they like' argument for a minute. There really are some clothes which make it difficult to know where to look. There's a place for sexy, and I don't think it's in professional life - but I@m old fashioned!

Absolutely spot on. In every respect. I could care less what you wear in your own time but around children (impressionable sponges) it is vital to maintain some sort of decorum when working with them as a an adult with professional capacity.

KindOfInvisible · 26/08/2022 03:22

I thought about this thread this morning when I was out shopping. Not the wearing in front of kids part but the general feeling that they are "gross" looking.

I saw a lot of women wearing these leggings - young and not-so-young. I saw a very fit lady in her 50s absolutely rocking a pair of these and I was surprised that I thought they didn't look too bad. Maybe I'm not the wowser I thought I was.

Fashion often shocks, same as it ever was.🍑

noseybelle · 26/08/2022 03:39

My 19 year old DD wears these and I have no doubt that they attract a lot of attention from men and women alike. Men ogle her, women judge her.

Why anybody wants to wear them is beyond me. Raunch culture has a lot to answer for.

KindOfInvisible · 26/08/2022 03:54

noseybelle · 26/08/2022 03:39

My 19 year old DD wears these and I have no doubt that they attract a lot of attention from men and women alike. Men ogle her, women judge her.

Why anybody wants to wear them is beyond me. Raunch culture has a lot to answer for.

I don't disagree with you, but I think it's a stretch to think that women only judge her. An envious look is not a judgement.

thatisnotyours · 26/08/2022 09:03

Looks like opinions on this are fairly split on MN. Thanks everyone for the replies ☺️

OP posts:
CulturePigeon · 26/08/2022 10:40

thatisnotyours

Looks like opinions on this are fairly split on MN. Thanks everyone for the replies ☺️

Ooh - ouch! thatisnotyours...that's a really cheeky pun, if I may say so.

(Sorry - couldn't resist.)

KindOfInvisible · 26/08/2022 10:46

CulturePigeon · 26/08/2022 10:40

thatisnotyours

Looks like opinions on this are fairly split on MN. Thanks everyone for the replies ☺️

Ooh - ouch! thatisnotyours...that's a really cheeky pun, if I may say so.

(Sorry - couldn't resist.)

😂

Eaumyword · 26/08/2022 11:22

At my school, we all seem to wear Boden or White Stuff pocket dresses! 😂
It's about comfort, but also appearing professional imo.

Mamafromthebeach · 26/08/2022 22:56

Eaumyword · 26/08/2022 11:22

At my school, we all seem to wear Boden or White Stuff pocket dresses! 😂
It's about comfort, but also appearing professional imo.

To teach an exercise class where you have to demonstrate the moves? 😬😳

Eaumyword · 26/08/2022 23:12

😂 I think you know what I meant! I definitely have no moves any more - see that hill? I'm over it!
Not keen on the leggings personally.

KindOfInvisible · 27/08/2022 05:20

The original thread is now a couple of women sniping at each other with vague accusations of putting their children at risk... it's nice to know the Victorian era still flourishes in the colonies🙄

It's a shame because it's a relevant topic especially now that the next generation of teachers are these very scrunch-bum legging-wearing young women.

MangyInseam · 27/08/2022 05:52

A whole generation of young women seem to have absorbed the simultaneous messages that no one should think that what they wear is sexualizing and that they should wear clothes that sexualize themselves.

It's an interesting phenomena, and I wonder how many are naive enough that they don't see what's going on, and how many really have just accepted the idea that female sexualization is a kind of empowerment. I cannot say I am keen for my daughters or my son at school to be taught that, even passively.

I remember seeing bathing suits constructed this way about 25 years ago, they were being marketed to gay men, and they were clearly meant to be sexually suggestive.

MangyInseam · 27/08/2022 06:02

Ozgirl75 · 25/08/2022 12:50

There’s a mid 20s woman in my gym who wears these and I have to say, her figure is amazing and even me as a happily married straight woman did look at her bottom in that cartoon eyes popping out of my skull way the first time I saw them. Her butt was just so…..there! I mean I could see the whole shape!
I can understand fully why men love women in them 😀

Ina lot of cases though it seems like people who think it is ok to wear these things also think men who react that way are pervs.

KindOfInvisible · 27/08/2022 06:38

MangyInseam · 27/08/2022 06:02

Ina lot of cases though it seems like people who think it is ok to wear these things also think men who react that way are pervs.

I think that most women who are comfortable enough to wear them realise that they will attract the male gaze. I know I was trying my hardest to in my early twenties.

That's not to say that unwanted attention is ok, but I don't think we can ban people staring at each other.

Another thread on the site from the OP describes a nightclub attempting to enforce a staring without consent ban. I'm pretty sure that can't work, good intentions aside.

Goldencarp · 27/08/2022 06:44

i hope they’re short lived. They are absolutely hideous and no matter how fabulous your figure is they’ll never look good!

not sure if they’re inappropriate though.