This country is going down the pan isn't it?

[Sunflowerkeep]

Mcdonalds Nottingham was raided by a gang of 50 kids, yes kids just young kids. It was upsetting to watch that. Kids being stabbed, inflation that's going to hit many hard. A corrupt government..any good points? I wish I could leave

Well said!

My zone two nice suburb Sainsbury’s was evacuated whilst we were shopping. The area is nice and I couldn’t say that a year after the GE it had changed much than for the better - as it has since

But I do agree about Woodstock, lack of water and heat on tarmac etc was atrocious

Goosy I appreciate your post but imo the media landscape has shifted over recent years, due to SM and online use. Clickbait is a powerful sales tactic and the party in power are a good topic for pushing emotions. An example is partygate - I can’t think of any media outlet that didn’t talk about it daily which ultimately got rid of Johnson in the end. I think the days of no daily scrutiny are over.

It’s money that helps and clicks that do it

@Weirdwonders I sometimes wonder if people were on another planet. The country was in a far better place from 97 to 2010 than it is today- even my 82 year old FIL who is more of a natural Tory voter says so.

@Yellowshirt @carefullycourageous put it very well. Maybe you didn't mean to phrase it as such but your post smacked of the Nazis. I believe in controlled immigration too although I am also pro EU because the people coming in recent years tend to be young , work for a few years and then leave. Gvt are now about to bring in loads of indians and phillipinos to cover off some of the essential service roles that aren't being filled. That makes no logical sense and I am betting they won't be here short term .

Im the end, it was a delay of a couple of months. Within a few months vaccination rates in France, Germany and Italy were (and are) same as the UK.
And at least they don’t now have to be giving their kids extra polio boosts as it is now coming back in the 3rd world country that we are! (Just got an invite for this from my GP for my kids!).

If we lived in a third world country ,you wouldn't have Gp to get an invite for a polio vaccine 🙄

GPs and public health/vaccination campaigns do exist in developing nations.

And at least they don’t now have to be giving their kids extra polio boosts as it is now coming back in the 3rd world country that we are!

How ignorant you sound.
Polio was detected in sewerage in London.

These detections typically occur when people vaccinated in other countries (possibly in countries such as Nigeria, Pakistan or Afghanistan where outbreaks are still common) with a weakened form of the poliovirus return or travel to the country and shed the weakened live virus in their stool for a few weeks.

It's precisely because we're not a third world country that so many people want to come here and as such we are constantly under risk of diseases being brought in. And that we have Health Agency that are checking and offering a third vaccination. It's highly unlikely that anyone will contract polio because of the high vaccine rate but in certain areas of London, where the uptake rate of the polio vaccine is at about 35%, obviously the risk is greater. Blame your child's risk increasing on the parents for not ensuring their children are vaccinated, not the govt or the nhs that offer free vaccinations.

I never said they didn't but they don't have access to a national health service do they ?

@CocoC Yep, and be aware that those of us under a certain age and without immunosuppressant history were getting them the same time as the UK . In Denmark my Pfizer jabs started in April 2021, exactly when I would have got them in the UK- because my friends were getting them then too. Difference was we weren't getting AsttaZenrca which weirdly was all but phased out quietly!! We all had Pfizer and younger people Moderna. A big part of the slightly later start was that they were not 100% on board using Astra Zeneca. Denmark certainly wasn't

Mmm yes I know. I didn’t agree with everything Tony Blair’s government did by a long shot.
This rise they are talking about would put higher education out of reach though, for so many.
Still, the last Labour government were infinitely better than the bunch of disgusting asset strippers we have now.

I remember watching Tory politicians on the news and being able to think, OK, I don’t agree with you, but there is clearly an underlying moral code here that I can respect you for. Those politicians are gone.

This country IS going down the pan and like a previous poster and many more I am dreaming of an independent Scotland that I and my half Scottish partner can escape to. BUT WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO LEAVE?

Perhaps that what you meant but your comment I was responding to didn’t mention the NHS - you simply stated they wouldn’t have a GP to invite them for a polio vaccine.

Slightly off topic but an interesting fact is some African countries were managing to do contact tracing during Covid better than the UK back in 2020…which yeah I guess doesn’t say much considering it was chaos here lol.

But my point is basically taking into consideration the UK’s relative wealth - things are in quite a mess and have been for the past few years .

Lady today on with Nick Ferrari ( lbc) earlier this morning.
She is a consultant and was speaking about her son who wants to study medicine.
He asked her how bad the nhs is now and she said ' very '
It sounded grim , she wasn't making it political either , just her own experience of working for the NHS for years and how it's changed and won't get any better ( in her view)
It's sad that we all face our old age knowing that nothing will be done for us if it carries on getting even worse, which it sounds like it will do if you can't pay for your own care or operations.