This country is going down the pan isn't it?

[Sunflowerkeep]

Mcdonalds Nottingham was raided by a gang of 50 kids, yes kids just young kids. It was upsetting to watch that. Kids being stabbed, inflation that's going to hit many hard. A corrupt government..any good points? I wish I could leave

Regarding 'what makes you think any other country will be better?' - for me it is knowing about other countries that makes me aware they genuinely are better in some significant ways.

Yeah, it's not Eton students shanking each other over drug turf wars. Pretending otherwise is just burying one's head in the sand.

@IAMNOTTHEONE2022

"Blame it on the fuckwits who voted Brexit"

So that's why kids are getting stabbed ?

And why an 9 year-old child in Liverpool got shot in their own home?

And why we have a water-shortage?

I'm sure the Police and weather forecasters will be pleased to hear your erudite input.

The 2011 riots/looting in London by youth.. is that because of Brexit too?

Is it me or is it particularly bad here (I'm Midlands too)?

The only reason the country is in such a terrible state is the Tories being in power for so long. If the government funded properly the NHS, police, schools, communities, public transport, social care etc then these problems wouldnt happen. We are a supposedly rich country, we should be able to get an ambulance and have visible police on our streets. The government should have had insight to plan for this energy crisis but they didn't, there is no short term or long term plan to avoid this in future. And that's without getting into Brexit...

Of course they would ,the government isn't responsible for stopping gangs of kids storming McDonald's,where are the parents in all this?

This must be the after effects of covid. People being locked down, being controlled and told what to do/ not to do.

There's so much violence in the Uk at the moment. It was bad before, but by god it's horrific. Just recently in my town a fight broke out and the pub was trashed. Then a week later, someone was stabbed at the pub.

I've walked through my own hometown (north of London) and I have never seen so many homeless people, the begging, the drinking, the fighting. It's unbelievable and off the scale.

Nonsense. The country's been shit under Labour too.

Being a rich country doesn't really help the deficit in people wanting to be coppers/nurses. If anything, it equates to more Ruperts and Jemimas who want to go to a red brick uni and get a highly paid office job.

The government IS responsible for protecting people and property, prosecuting crime, educating the population and providing sufficient services e.g. welfare, social work and youth work.

When you just leave it all to parents - who may be out at work or may be off their heads, who knows, I can not judge the parents unless I know their situation - all you do is abandon mainstream society to the wolves.

The Tarquinisation of our once humble country..... 😂

Nonsense. The country's been shit under Labour too. It has not been like this under Labour, no. The stats are clear. For example the state of the NHS now, with 15 hour waits for an ambulance - unprecedented. The record fall in real wages. The amount of shit being pumped into the sea.

Only a true Tory voter would try to pretend it is not worse now than at any point in the last forty years.

People have to take personal responsibility, if my 15 year old son was running around in a gang I eould expect to judged .

Good-o. And how does someone sitting in their lounge judging you help solve the actual problem?

We used to have a police force. We just to have a criminal justice system. We used to have probation. We used to have social work. We used to have youth work.

Judge away. It will change nothing and the crime issues will roll on. The government is leaving us unprotected.

YANBU OP. Twelve years of the "Party of Law and Order"🙄 has destroyed the the police, the criminal justice system, Education, health and the care system.🤷‍♀️

I agree things feel really awful at the moment and I think one of the main factors is that we have a government that doesn't appear to care at all about the population.

I read a tweet a while ago that made me want to cry. It was from someone who had been to another European country and found a cheap and lovely outdoor swimming complex in a normal town. They say, imagine living in a country where the government actually wanted people to have good lives. Or words to that effect.

There has been no investment in anything. The pool near me (inner London) used to be packed in the holidays, it had a wave machine and flumes and was really cheap. All out of order now, not enough staff. Nothing to do with your kids for a bit of a treat outing.

Obviously swimming pools are not the be all and end all but everyone knows that we have a PM who lies and cheats and who doesn't want to make the lives of others better and it looks as if the next one will be just as bad.

It's just endless and hopeless.

I think part of the problem is that nowadays we're ultimately a pretty soft society that expects there to be a safety net and for things to work as stated on the tin. Like the youths who want the police to arrest people for hurting their feelings.

Over the past couple of years we've seen how delicate the structure really is and how the possibility of complete resource failure is a distinct possibility at times.

Basically, the government can't really stop this stuff easily on a street level. There's not enough resource and we're not even close to creating a pipeline that will improve things in the near future.

But the government could stop this stuff - it was a political choice to cut 21,000 police officers. If that cut had not been made, far more crimes would be prevented, investigated and prosecuted.

It is a falsehood to say the government could not stop it. It would now take time to recruit - but it could be done.

When you just leave it all to parents - who may be out at work or may be off their heads, who knows, I can not judge the parents unless I know their situation - all you do is abandon mainstream society to the wolves.

No one has to have a child, but if you're going to have one, look after them and take responsibility. The govt and society provide all sorts of support. It's hardly "leaving it all to the parents" to ask them to have sufficient control not to gang attack a blinking shop. They wanted to be parents, then flipping parent instead of offloading the responsibility onto someone else.

We would have really come out trumps with the vaccines fiasco in Europe if we’d stayed in the union wouldn’t we 😂

the government isn't responsible for stopping gangs of kids storming McDonald's,

Well they could fund the police properly so there would be more chance of anyone behaving like this facing some real consequences.

Is it the government driving fathers to walk out on their children so often in certain communities? Is it the government bringing up the children who stab each other, or making people get pregnant while they are still at school?

But what consequences will a bunch of kids face anyway? Certainly not the same as adults.

Or their parents could do their job properly. Blaming the government for shit parenting is ludicrous.

"The country is going down the toilet. Instead of blaming those pushing the flusher, some are blaming other swimmers. Them drowning won't help you float."