Porn culture has led to women suffering injuries during sex

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Apart from all the violence etc porn portrays as normal, anal sex is definitely treated as an everyday thing that women enjoy. I don't personally. I know some women claim they do but I've certainly known men who pressure for it and I'm guessing it's only got worse in the years since I was dating.

This article suggests women are unknowingly entering into something that can cause serious injuries.

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/aug/11/rise-in-popularity-of-anal-sex-has-led-to-health-problems-for-women

Men shouldn't be developing tastes that are dangerous for their partners to fulfill. Sex used to be thrilling enough without extreme/exotic elements thrown in. Seeking ever greater thrills is a problem, not a goal.

How very presumptuous to believe in evolution and to presume everyone else does. Do one with your condescending comment.

Men shouldn't be developing tastes that are dangerous for their partners to fulfill. Sex used to be thrilling enough without extreme/exotic elements thrown in. Seeking ever greater thrills is a problem, not a goal.

But 🤷‍♀️

"I think there are different ideas about the messaging of “Education” :is it.
(a) Anal is “regularly enjoyed” by some couples and here ladies are some ideas about how you can provide pleasure to your man. or
(b) Anal is a niche practice which those who profit from exploitation would like you think is normal, and that “everyone else is doing it” so that you can coerce/be coerced into commoditizing your own sexuality, to have it sold back to you. By the way, children your age, have been left with life changing disabilities. And it’s nothing special anyway, and who want a poo-hat in their penis."

Could you polarise that message a bit more?

Quotes a previous poster. Who I agree with. That's been what some of the posters on here have been advocating, albeit in less direct language.
'Hey kids, anal can be great fun! Make sure you use lube, though!'.

It's a bit more complicated than that, at least it should be.

I had to Google golden showers when trump was mentioned in the media

I didn't know what pegging was until recently thanks to media coverage

Mainstream media is normalising discussion like this now

Has it enriched my education? Nope

I think we're missing the influence consuming porn at a young age, or in excess in adult life, has on people's tastes and preferences.

Our tastes and preferences are formed by what we experience, especially if those experiences are intense. For children's earliest experiences to be exotic porn acts is hugely damaging. It quite literally trains their brain to respond sexually to that kind of act, and not to less harmful ones.

*Quotes a previous poster. Who I agree with. That's been what some of the posters on here have been advocating, albeit in less direct language.
'Hey kids, anal can be great fun! Make sure you use lube, though!'.

It's a bit more complicated than that, at least it should be.*

Really? They said that. I've read the thread too.

I thought this thread had moved on a bit . That is so stirring the pot of what wasn't said anyway.

If you were going to give any education what would you actually say? Wouldn't that be a bit more positive and show some real consideration?

Not what could you put on here just to wind up someone who said something yesterday?

One of the most idiotic posts I’ve ever read on Mumsnet.
Speakong for all women who absolutely can’t like this practice. They just can’t.

So do gay men who receive also not like it either then?

Yep there's quite the string of bum sex shaming.

What do you not understand about anal sex needing extra work to make it enjoyable

Isn't the "needing extra work" telling you it's probably something that our bodies are not designed to do though?

A vagina gets lubricated when a woman is aroused coz that's where the penis is meant to go.

Christ, this is basic stuff.

@Twawmyarse

Incredibly basic isn’t it 🤦‍♀️

@Quincythequince

With all due respect to gay men they have to “make do” so to speak. Us women don’t, you know having access to another hole that does get naturally lubricated 🤦‍♀️. Not ever gay man engages in anal either, many stick to oral so it’s not a given just because someone is gay.

So do gay men who receive also not like it either then?

Isn't the argument here though about whether something is dangerous or not, not whether you like it. Anal sex is not a natural practice - it isn't what the anus was made for so obviously complications may arise (and often do) from the continued trauma.

Do you not understand the point that's being made about how this can be dangerous for women (and men?)

I think there's a lot of projection going on on this thread from women who don't want to imagine that they're not as sexually liberated as they think they are.

Christ, this is basic stuff.

Who is this info aimed at?

Not always amd not reliably, certainly not with age in many cases.

I don't think you can speak for all women and imply they don't love it. Many do

Have we moved on from "a tear from anal is like a tear from childbirth, so no biggie" to "a dry vagina requiring lube is the same as a rectum" then?

You said 'needing extra work' should tell us something.
I'm just pointing out that traditional sex sometimes needs extra work too, that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen

I am so tired of people telling others what they should and shouldn't like. And it's all over this thread.

What's the difference between that and a young girl being told she "should" like anal?

They absolutely do not have to take a cock up their arse! Under no circumstances. And many don’t. Plenty of other ways to get off without penetrative sex, don’t be so naive. And please read what I said. I didn’t say that all gay man had to participate and receive this, I said ‘for the ones who did’

And you can lubricate it sufficiently if you. Red to. Clearly some women need that too, albeit it to a much much lesser degree.

So back to the poster to whom I responded, ‘why can’t women like it’ and if no woman ever can, then how can any man?

Using your logic and taking it diether with bodies not doing what they apparently can’t, men shouldn’t then take viagara if needed?

Women who struggle to conceive shouldn’t have IVF?

After all their bodies aren’t designed to become erect or become pregnant easily, respectively.

Do you know how mad this sounds??

That wasn’t what the poster who said she was convinced no woman ever enjoyed it, meant.

She meant that at face value and said it more than once.

@Quincythequince Bringing gay men into the conversation derails the needs of women to talk about their experiences. Male sexuality should absolutely not get in the way of the rights of women and girls to object to/dislike and have concerns about a coercive culture of anal sex.

@Quincythequince I....think you've run away with yourself there a tad!
I was simply saying just because something isn't traditional doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.
So you're angrily agreeing with me

Sorry Sux!
I am definitely agreeing with you.
Realise afterwards that I was quoted the wrong person 🤦🏼‍♀️

Imagine if we all lived by the mantra ‘your body can’t/isn’t meant to do that’

Agree they were extreme examples, that was the point of them.

Some people have no concept of doing things differently. And I have for a very short period worked in sexual health (with young people) and also have an immediate first degree gay relative too, so have had other discussions about this.

It’s the sweeping comments about what women can and can’t enjoy, and what should and shouldn’t be done that got me.