Man in women’s changing rooms (NOT trans)

[DelisButAlsoCrime]

I genuinely don’t know if I am being unreasonable here or not.

I went swimming with DS today, and arriving at the same time of us was a mini bus with 8 adults - 7 men, one woman. It was fairly obvious that most of the males were disabled, not quite as severe as Down’s Syndrome but similar. The woman and one of the men were caring for them. All but one of the men went with the male carer to the men’s changing room, but the female and one of the men went, just ahead of me, into the female dressing room. The woman actually held the door open for me but I kind of did a double take and held back. I thought about going to reception and asking them but decided not to. When I went in they had gone into one of the private cubicles. However, they did come out before I was ready and the man came around the corner and was looking quite obviously into the open changing spaces.

AIBU to be uncomfortable with this? I don’t know if there is a disabled changing room at my gym because this would be the obvious answer if he needed to be specifically with the female carer.

Also you are getting changed in private cubicles so it’s not like he was watching you get changed.

Theres not really a difference between this and being in the swimming pool with males.

No, women who "have an issue" with a man in the women's changing room should not be instructed to just leave if they have a problem
The utter nerve of you to suggest that because you personally don't care what naked genitals are on display beside you, no other woman should care either!
The utter bloody nerve!

It’s not hypocritical at all. There is a fundamental asymmetry, no matter how disingenuously your lot pretend otherwise.

Also you are getting changed in private cubicles so it’s not like he was watching you get changed.

So if it doesn't matter why do they have male and female facilities?
If it doesn't matter why Di they all not go in the men's?

I wasn’t in a private cubicle. There are only one or two, and I neither need nor want to use a private cubicle when I’m in what should be a single sex space.

So if it doesn't matter why do they have male and female facilities?
If it doesn't matter why Di they all not go in the men's?

Ive been swimming at 3 places recently and none of them had male and female facilities. They just all had private cubicles. I don’t see the problem with this?

I do not want an adult male walking past me when I am getting changed. Regardless of whether they are disabled or not.

He should have been in the men’s changing area or the gym should have closed off a changing area temporarily for him to use, if there was no other alternative.

But isn’t this what happened but the other way round?

As other posters have put, maybe there are facilities in the womens rooms that the male changing rooms don't have for disabled people

Then the company need to change that.
Women should not be subjected to males in female only areas because the company are shit at providing disabled facilities.
Women are not support humans for men!

I know.
You raised the subject of people's bits in the changing room being of no consequence. Not me.

Ive been swimming at 3 places recently and none of them had male and female facilities. They just all had private cubicles. I don’t see the problem with this?

But this one did.
It also only had 2 cubical.

I prefer floor to ceiling unisex cubical however in a place where it is male and female facilities then that must be respected for everyone's dignity and safety.

That is 120 people assaulted, why is that laughable? Would you laugh in the face of someone raped in a toilet or changing room?

To you it might not be a big deal but to every single person in that 12 it is likely life changing.

Ah! We've neatly segued into "It probably wasn't a man at all, just looked like one".
You're on the fucking windup.

Agree. It's grim for the individual concerned - treating him as subhuman and asexual because he has learning difficulties - "It doesn't matter if he's is in the women's changing room, as he's not really a man". Totally inappropriate.

@CherryColaRoller what on earth. What if your daughter, your friend, your mother or even you were in that 120? That’s 120 life changing experiences that could have been avoided. But what’s a bit of rape, right? Those women were probably asking for it, flaunting their knickers whilst getting changed.