Man in women’s changing rooms (NOT trans)

[DelisButAlsoCrime]

I genuinely don’t know if I am being unreasonable here or not.

I went swimming with DS today, and arriving at the same time of us was a mini bus with 8 adults - 7 men, one woman. It was fairly obvious that most of the males were disabled, not quite as severe as Down’s Syndrome but similar. The woman and one of the men were caring for them. All but one of the men went with the male carer to the men’s changing room, but the female and one of the men went, just ahead of me, into the female dressing room. The woman actually held the door open for me but I kind of did a double take and held back. I thought about going to reception and asking them but decided not to. When I went in they had gone into one of the private cubicles. However, they did come out before I was ready and the man came around the corner and was looking quite obviously into the open changing spaces.

AIBU to be uncomfortable with this? I don’t know if there is a disabled changing room at my gym because this would be the obvious answer if he needed to be specifically with the female carer.

So women should leave a safe space if they feel uncomfortable about a person with a penis being in there? And where should they go if they want or need a safe space? Do you not see how much this erodes women’s rights?

It's such a crime to believe in biological sex isn't it? 🙄

Yes you keep telling us about the statistically insignificance of the risks, aren't you clever to be able to explain that to us all.

I'm sure you'll be aware that risk assessment plots likelihood against consequence to inform decisions about how robust mitigation needs to be.

Perhaps you could explain to us what the consequences of sexual assault are? Do you think it's just sex you didn't ask for? What about if it's accompanied by a beating to ensure compliance or perhaps the use of a weapon to terrify you into compliance?

Do "bitches" just need to suck it up if it only affects a few of us in a statistically insignificant way?

Leave the changing room - while naked? Umm no thanks.

I believe TWAW and think the vocal minority on this site are a scourge to society

When you say minority...how many are we talking about? A whole coven of witches or a statistically insignificant number of bigoted dinosaurs?

You didn't answer any of my questions, why is that?

They should go to the changing room in accordance with their anatomy. It’s a simple answer.

I know biological sex deniers don't think it's possible to tell the difference between a biological male and a biological female but if for example I can see an Adam's apple I know I'm not looking at a woman.

Right, so you're telling children if they feel uncomfortable and scared, they are the problem?

(Why am I even going in on this?!)

I’m not talking about this person, I’m talking generally. Two people stood next to each other in the women’s changing room changing their clothes. One is a biological woman, one a biological man. If BW is uncomfortable about this she should leave the changing room apparently. And some posters cannot see that her rights have been completely trampled upon.

However, they did come out before I was ready

If it was really a concern, could you not have used a cubicle to change, just this once?

So a man’s right to go wherever he wants trumps a woman’s right to feel safe? Do you actually believe any of the stuff you’re posting or are you just being goady?

If you have the problem

You need to leave

It's a simple concept

One which many children understand

What happens when you are the problem?