To think that no one will give a shit about climate change when they're freezing this winter?

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Just that really. When we have a choice of spanking out £650+ in January for gas and electric or slowly freezing, will people will be less sympathetic to 'green' measures?

Will net zero go out the window when we realise how bloody miserable it is to live without modern comforts and there is civil unrest as a result?

YABU - Don't be ridiculous, climate change is the most important issue
YANBU - How true, I predict a riot

vote for parties that support global measures

Do you think every country has the same impact on a global level or that every country is being punished equally when it comes to this green agenda? Think again

Oh. yes! So unfair. Let's do nothing and destroy the planet out of political spite!

It's not like an argument over the housework, and who is pulling their weight or not - but there are global sanctions.

Maybe you have a better idea of how those in poverty, struggling to survive can help, though?

It's not either/or. Good insulation and investing in renewable energy helps with cost of living as well as with climate crisis.

Strawberries are frequently grown in heated polytunnels in the UK, especially out of season. Mangetout is often airfreighted from Morocco. I've enjoyed both this year, straight from my garden.

A pannier from Halfords costs £20. Solar panel supply & installation starts at £5k or so, I don't get how you think that I could afford solar panels if I can afford a pannier.

We fit almost all of those criteria, have done for three decades.
Because we’re on a limited income. The fact we’re concerned about climate change is in addition to that.

It is a very long way away from everthing else so massive population movements etc won't impact it. It has a temperate climate and small population. It has lots of unspoiled wild areas and therefore much good quality soil still.

Also very unlikely to be involved in any major conflict or war or nuclear incident.

Come to my house. Traditional stone cottage with a whacking big inglenook with a multi fuel stove.

ill be burning 🔥 .

all welcome

2 of my neighbours (we’re all landowners) have tried to get planning permission in their land to place solar panels. On the ground, just enough to supply their own property and both have been declined.

the reason? It doesn’t sit well in the area. Rural, out side the National park but still a no.

so people are trying but being blocked because if the area. There is no wind turbine in sight neither, besides living in a mountain side where wind is inevitable.

It is a very long way away from everything else so massive population movements etc won't impact it. It has a temperate climate and small population

Have you read the article and stayed on top of current affairs over there? It can hardly be anyone's idea of heaven ATM

No, but we can make a difference to our own air pollution and improve things as much as we can.

Reduce air pollution = fewer deaths and less illness (and is just nicer)

Have more trees and plants to help combat flooding, and also help to reduce temperatures.

This isn't just a macro issue, it's a local one as well.

Set fire to the world so you don't need to wear a jumper in your nice house in a western country with a temperate climate.

Yes, of course you're fucking unreasonable.

@yardstickbarbedstick

🤦🏻‍♀️ A few farmers renting out their fields is NOT going to stop Global Warming.

If that's your answer to the crisis you need to be better informed & less patronising.

@WinterMusings I don't think she's proposing that example as the solution to global warming!

She's alluded to the fact that we operate our economies and industries on mass scales and that more effective local use of resources is one way to reduce reliance on massive suppliers, which could have a knock on effect. Also that by allowing greater access and use of resources by locals could result in better ecological practices.

There isn't one grand solution to global warming- it's one thing to say we need to effectively stop carbon emissions but in order do this we need to adopt smaller solutions that impact the communities which would be effected.

I'm not explaining myself very well but hopefully well enough!

Some humans may survive the catastrophic climate change which is predicted if we continue on our current path, but billions of them will die through conflict and starvation. Not in thousands of years. In the next 50-100 years.

There is currently 40 degree heat in India and almost never 40 degree heat in the UK. But if there is regularly 40 degree heat in the UK, how hot and dry do you imagine India will be?

Climate systems may also reach a tipping point, where runaway, irreversible change takes place. A global rise in temperatures of 2 or 3 degrees doesn't mean it will be slighter warmer everywhere on average, it will set in train changes in the melting of the ice caps, the desertificiation of verdant areas, changes in ocean currents like the Gulf Stream which will combine to mean it gets hotter and hotter and hotter.

We cannot as a society ignore this or postpone this. We need to rapidly end our use of fossil fuels.

Then you are a loon. This is globally accepted, peer-reviewed science. You might as well say you're not 100% sure the world is round.

@paddingtonstares

I wonder how long it takes to train as a chimney sweep & how much start up capital is required?

and we still have a month of school holidays left. Plus might as well keep them warm & busy as sat in a cold classroom hey!

I love the word 'loon'.

From what I've seen chimney sweeps just have a chimey-version of Henry the Hoover and give it a big old vacuum out.

I see that as a 'put your oxygen mask on first'.

we need to survive the weather & col etc. in order to make long term changes & gains.

What a stupid perspective.

We are not the only country bothered by climate change and we're not the only country taking action. We all have to take action, together, by shaping new technologies and culture internationally.

Another loon.

Imagine the incalulable human misery, suffering and despair of billions of people across dozens of generations slowly going extinct (that is, dying through hunger, thirst, war, disease) because their planet is burning. "I honestly don't think it would be a bad thing." What an inhuman thing to say. Unspeakably evil.

I am doing my bit, but I absolutely refuse to incur expense to help the Green agenda. If it is so important let the Government pay a subsidy for everyone to achieve net zero. I cannot afford to do it alone.

Going green helps save you money.

No car
No flights
No consumer goods
No waste

Saves a fortune.

@Onlyhereforthebatshitneighbours

No but she keeps saying if she was in charge, she could solve the entire Global Warming issue & yet she has very little grasp on the issues.

It's like having a 5 year old tell you that you need to buy petrol when the engine has just blown up & there's fuel all over the road.

they're not wrong exactly, they just have no real grasp of the situation.