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To think that no one will give a shit about climate change when they're freezing this winter?

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Turnandfacethestrangechanges · 30/07/2022 11:55

Just that really. When we have a choice of spanking out £650+ in January for gas and electric or slowly freezing, will people will be less sympathetic to 'green' measures?

Will net zero go out the window when we realise how bloody miserable it is to live without modern comforts and there is civil unrest as a result?

YABU - Don't be ridiculous, climate change is the most important issue
YANBU - How true, I predict a riot

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pollypokcet · 27/11/2022 09:22

TurquoisePterodactyl · 30/07/2022 12:15

Sending emails and surfing the web uses energy. A typical thread with a low few hundred replies creates 4-5kg of CO2. Then there is the cloud storage that threads from 1997 are stored on.

People underestimate the climate cost of emails, texts and cloud storage. Partly because they do not know. Emailing etc might seem quite clean but it is not.

Oh come on. That is a drop in the ocean.

Over 1/3 of the pollution on Earth is caused by just 20 global companies. People buying things with less packaging and surfing the net less is not going to be what changes things. It requires global Governments to take action against these companies.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/09/revealed-20-firms-third-carbon-emissions

Exactly. The 'you can't do anything if you care about climate argument'. Can't use electricity, public transport or breathe because all of these things generate CO2.

You just sent an email! No, no, up might as well give up on recycling and buying second hand, and not using a car. So hypocritical to care about climate when you send emails 😱

pollypokcet · 27/11/2022 09:33

thehorsehasnowbolted · 27/11/2022 09:17

there are just too many of us

By all means. Have fewer or no children but don't make the lives of those of us who are already here hell!

It's a fact. She didn't make your life hell- and I say this with two children. She's talking at global population level not addressing your family directly Confused

Luckycatt · 27/11/2022 09:50

Sure, but what I'm saying is that the government decided to produce more energy for cheap home consumption and that these methods were not green, most people would support that.

It's not cheap anymore! And wind and sunlight are free and much easier to access than coal and gas.

I'm definitely not on any path to net zero or whatever. I don't consider myself an eco warrior. I drive a petrol car, have a gas boiler, go on airplanes etc. but even I can see that we'd be much better off, financially and environmentally. If we'd put more investment into green energy.

Daftasabroom · 17/02/2023 14:43

pollypokcet · 27/11/2022 09:22

Exactly. The 'you can't do anything if you care about climate argument'. Can't use electricity, public transport or breathe because all of these things generate CO2.

You just sent an email! No, no, up might as well give up on recycling and buying second hand, and not using a car. So hypocritical to care about climate when you send emails 😱

I know it's an old thread but you know this is disingenuous bullshit from the Guardian and Richard Heede right?

Basically it reassigns all the emissions from burning fossil fuels to the extractors of fossil fuels. So your gas boiler emissions are now the responsibility of British Gas, my cars emissions are assigned to BP, flight emissions are assigned to Shell. Historical emissions from coal fired power stations are assigned to British Coal.

In trying to pin the "blame" for GHG emissions on a few big corporations it has backfired massively and has just resulted in more discourses of delay.

Climate change affects all of us and it is the responsibility of all of us to do what we can.

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