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Ordering a takeaway in this heat?

203 replies

Nc830 · 19/07/2022 14:40

As the title says

OP posts:
Blackmoggy · 19/07/2022 17:41

userxx · 19/07/2022 17:07

Don't tell the op, don't want to burst her bubble.

"Burst her bubble"....

A low attempt at being smug and superior and trying to patronize OP...

wildthingsinthenight · 19/07/2022 17:41

We had one last night and will tonight. No way am I putting the oven on. The heat causes me a lot of health problems

ladydoris · 19/07/2022 17:42

Wanted to order a cake for my daughter to celebrate her end of year. I would not could, Then thought of the bakers. Will wait for the rainy days coming.

ladydoris · 19/07/2022 17:42

cook.

InTheNightWeWillWish · 19/07/2022 17:45

We ordered a takeaway last night partly because it was too hot to cook and partly because we’d been away and had nothing in. If the takeaways don’t want business, they will shut. Takeaways round here will sometimes shut mid session because they’ve been run off their feet and don’t want any more business that evening. There is no ubereats, deliveroo near us so the delivery drivers are staff from the takeaways and are usually behind the counter when they aren’t driving. I’ve also worked in a kitchen and professional kitchens are always hot.

This heat is going to become more common so businesses need to adapt. There aren’t many places that will be afford to shut every time the temperature gets above 30. Also where is the faux concern for everyone else who has to work in this heat? I assume if your electricity/water goes off you would still expect the utility worker to be at site fixing the issue? I assume you still expect a farmer to be out harvesting fields so you can buy bread in a few months time?

userxx · 19/07/2022 17:49

@Blackmoggy How so ? There's was absolutely nothing smug or superior in what I wrote.

Tonty · 19/07/2022 17:49

moita · 19/07/2022 14:43

Our local Chinese has closed for the day. I would feel a bit guilty

I'd feel even more guilty if they were open and no one ordered anything!

Eeksteek · 19/07/2022 17:50

magicstar1 · 19/07/2022 14:49

Surely if the takeaway is open for business they need the custom. If it's too hot for them to work, then they close.

If no one orders, they’re more likely to close. Given that the people working are less likely to be making the decisions and not likely to be on high incomes, you could argue it’s support them morally by not ordering, possibly?

I try not to ask people to do things I wouldn’t do myself. And I have declared the kitchen closed, here. (There is pre-cooked stuff in the fridge. Everyone here is capable of opening it) so I think maybe I wouldn’t, personally.

Angelinflipflops · 19/07/2022 17:50

We're having a salad tonight

Blackmoggy · 19/07/2022 17:55

userxx · 19/07/2022 17:49

@Blackmoggy How so ? There's was absolutely nothing smug or superior in what I wrote.

What did you mean by "burst her bubble" then?

sunglassesonthetable · 19/07/2022 18:01

If no one orders, they’re more likely to close. Given that the people working are less likely to be making the decisions and not likely to be on high incomes, you could argue it’s support them morally by not ordering, possibly?

Sorry that makes no sense. You don't support anyone working there by not ordering.

Some places are family run. The place I'm going to is.

Anyway off to get my Indian take out.

BlodynGwyn · 19/07/2022 18:02

Farmers who grow the food you eat have to work no matter the weather is doing. My husband and son work in temps of 32C and much higher all summer long. How about fire fighters fighting wild fires? Many people have to keep working, no matter what.

People have to make a living and you can't quit irrigating fields, feeding cattle, fighting wildfires etc etc just because it's uncomfortable.

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 19/07/2022 18:03

If they are open I'm sure they'd rather be taking money than sat around in a boiling hot kitchen doing nothing

I'll be ordering later

Bubblebubblebah · 19/07/2022 18:07

Anothernamechangeplease · 19/07/2022 16:53

I'm not worried about the companies. I'm worried about the delivery people who are probably being exploited and may not be able to afford to decline the work.

I wouldn't do it. Most deliveries here are done by bike. It's too hot for cycling today.

With the amount of jobs available they can very much choose to not be delivery driver. Not everyone is being exploited everywhere...

Nc830 · 19/07/2022 18:08

Well I ordered 2 one for me one for kids as they wanted something different

dominos was young boy delivering, he was happy and when I apologised for ordering he said it gets me a wage so I’m good

mcdonalds on Justeat taking the p*SS as usual took 1 hour 30 mins. Time on the bag of food said 16:23 but was delivered 15 minutes ago, down to drivers using multiple apps and turning off their signal. So no tip for them

OP posts:
userxx · 19/07/2022 18:11

@Blackmoggy I meant that another poster had said her son was more than happy delivering with his air con and tunes on. Not all delivery drivers are on the breadline forced into slave labour as the op was implying. From her latest update it's pretty clear she's talking absolute rubbish anyway 🤷‍♂️

Cervinia · 19/07/2022 18:13

You could always get your own. We drove ten miles on Sunday to get fish and chips from a place that I knew was there, hadn’t tried and was raved about on TikTok.

Well worth it.

Bubblebubblebah · 19/07/2022 18:15

Eeksteek · 19/07/2022 17:50

If no one orders, they’re more likely to close. Given that the people working are less likely to be making the decisions and not likely to be on high incomes, you could argue it’s support them morally by not ordering, possibly?

I try not to ask people to do things I wouldn’t do myself. And I have declared the kitchen closed, here. (There is pre-cooked stuff in the fridge. Everyone here is capable of opening it) so I think maybe I wouldn’t, personally.

Supporting people but losing them wages? Yeah why not...

Easy to say from comfort of own home when one didn't lose any wages by not cooking

serenghetti2011 · 19/07/2022 18:23

We went to McDonald’s last night after I finished a very hot 12 hour shift as a nurse McDonald’s staff all in their shorts and T shirts having fun it wasn’t very busy but cool in the restaurant which was nice I was like a swollen red sweaty mess but so hungry on way home it was nice I didn’t need to cook - no food at hospital after 6 joy

Eeksteek · 19/07/2022 18:26

Yes, that’s an argument. I don’t think it’s fair to make people work in a kitchen in this heat though. Do you?

OneTC · 19/07/2022 18:27

Nc830 · 19/07/2022 18:08

Well I ordered 2 one for me one for kids as they wanted something different

dominos was young boy delivering, he was happy and when I apologised for ordering he said it gets me a wage so I’m good

mcdonalds on Justeat taking the p*SS as usual took 1 hour 30 mins. Time on the bag of food said 16:23 but was delivered 15 minutes ago, down to drivers using multiple apps and turning off their signal. So no tip for them

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KevinTheKoala · 19/07/2022 18:31

Who the hell thinks that the workers gets to make the decision on whether or not places shut? The worker who can't afford to take the day off gets 0 say in whether or not a place stays open - and the owner doesn't have to work in the building so doesn't care a jot about whether their minimum wage workers are too hot. When I worked at a takeaway (in temperatures nowhere near what we've had today) we regularly had chefs and drivers sent home sick with heatstroke, fainters were a regular occurance and so was vomiting in some instances due to the heat. Not a particularly pleasant place to work in summer. (This was a well known chain takeaway too, so not exactly a struggling family ran business).

I now work in a well known chain restaurant and again, the staff (who again cannot afford to take a day off) are seriously struggling in this heat. One of our chefs has suffered heat exhaustion and there is no escape from the heat at all. We don't have air con in the building, it's very busy at night and we are dealing with customers complaining to us that it's too hot (we know we are working in it) and that it's not good enough and we need to somehow magically change the weather. Oh and one lovely customer moaning that their ice cream was starting to melt 🙄 in 38 degree heat!..... Sorry that turned in to a rant. If you must order takeaway please tip your driver, and if you go to a restaurant please be nice to your waiter/waitress! We deal with enough abuse anyway but the heat really seems to amp it up 😭

maddiemookins16mum · 19/07/2022 18:32

HarrfordFern · 19/07/2022 14:57

What is a middle class job?!

Oh come on….any job where you’re not earning min wage and working unsociable hours.

Bubblebubblebah · 19/07/2022 18:46

It's very different in big places with x branches and independent small takeaway. In all that years we haven't had people fainting etc. Nor did our frienda. Because owners often do shifts too. Contrary to popular belief small ones don't make hundreds of thousands into their pockets.

LaughingCat · 19/07/2022 18:47

We’ve been living on takeout these last two days - one delivery driver thanked us, saying that he’d had virtually no work with the heat.

The delivery drivers are on zero hours contracts - they don’t get any jobs, they don’t get any money. The takeouts are the same - they don’t get orders, they don’t make money. Several have shut for these two days and are taking the financial hit. Others can’t afford to.

Just the flip side to the slight holier-than-thou smugness I’ve been seeing online about this.

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