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To take it back, people do need the obvious pointing out to them in the heat

214 replies

HeleenaHandcart · 18/07/2022 15:47

I’ve been thinking it’s all a bit Over the top, the heat fuss.

But no, some idiot at 3:20 pm walked their medium size dog pass my house (London, hot hot). Dog was very reluctant and she was totally confused as to why, pulling the lead.

My kids beat me too it,
12 yr old ‘it’s too hot for dogs! What are you doing!’
6 yr old ‘the pavement will burn his feet’

I mean a fucking 6 yr old, not dog owning or even having spoken about dogs and heat, and look and assess the situation.

I despair.

btw I left my dog owning scary neighbour to descend with full annoyance and resolve the stupidity.

OP posts:
Lweji · 18/07/2022 18:53

People who have no blinds or curtains are likely to find that, yes, closing the windows will heat up the house. That´s because the Sun heats it like a greenhouse particularly if you have an east-west house. If you have a north-south facing house, the Sun won´t shine so much inside, or hardly at all, and it will not heat it so much. But large windows, particularly bay windows will allow a lot of sun in. Great in Winter. Shit in the Summer. Get blinds or curtains.
People in houses or top flats should also consider how insulated the roof is. It may be transferring heat to the house.

BTW, when using the air conditioning in the car, it cools faster if you open the windows to let the hot air out, and just close them after a while. Also, use the recycled air setting, so that the system cools only the cooler air inside, rather than the very hot outside air.

Stevenage689 · 18/07/2022 18:53

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 18/07/2022 18:32

I drove past a heavily sweating overweight older man in cycle gear on my way home in boiling sun. He looked bright red. Idiot.

What if that was his way home from work? What do you suggest he do instead?

TheFridayRabbit · 18/07/2022 18:56

Stevenage689 · 18/07/2022 18:53

What if that was his way home from work? What do you suggest he do instead?

Bus, taxi, walk, wfh. Anything other than put himself into clear danger.

fairgame84 · 18/07/2022 18:58

Gwenhwyfar · 18/07/2022 18:07

So people in hot countries shouldn't jog?
I wouldn't personally want to jog in temperatures over 30, but seasoned joggers should be able to deal with it.

DH has gone out to play football. He's African and used to these temperatures and he's grown up playing in hot weather so can't understand why I'm telling him he's crazy.
Im sweltering but he's fine. It's currently 36°.

Staffy1 · 18/07/2022 19:09

My mother said the same thing, more or less, a couple of days ago when we saw a shaggy dog being walked on the midday heat. She said people moan about a nanny state but some people really do seem to need to be told what to do a lot of the time.

SexyLittleNosferatu · 18/07/2022 19:09

PearTree120 · 18/07/2022 18:37

This thread is unpleasantly reminiscent of the lockdown threads. All smug and gloaty and sanctimonious.

It is exactly like that isn't it. What a spaff fest. Sanctimonious people falling over themselves to outdo each other. I've even seem people saying "stay safe" and now we have berating joggers for not "staying at home". Pathetic.

Meanwhile the rest of us just cracked on and went to work for 11 hours 🙄

CaveMum · 18/07/2022 19:11

@NCembarassed I’d recommended getting the pet cooling mat. Bought one for our mistress from Amazon over the weekend. She turned her nose up at it initially but according to DH, who works from home, she spent most of today on it.

If your cat fails to use it I highly recommend sitting on it yourself - very refreshing! Apparently they’re also good TP put in your bed under the bottom sheet to keep you cool at night!

swimlyn · 18/07/2022 19:16

PearTree120 · 18/07/2022 18:37

This thread is unpleasantly reminiscent of the lockdown threads. All smug and gloaty and sanctimonious.

This thread contains very good information based on simple physics. All aspects of differing properties have also been considered by helpful posters.

We’ve had info from posters in hot countries too. All relevant.

I can’t see the gloaty.

You don’t have to act on any of this if you disbelieve.

Suzannetakesyoudown1 · 18/07/2022 19:29

If you’re very fit, running in the heat can be good training.

fellrunner85 · 18/07/2022 19:32

So people in hot countries shouldn't jog?
I wouldn't personally want to jog in temperatures over 30, but seasoned joggers should be able to deal with it

People from hot countries don't run. That's why most elite runners are famously from very cold countries 🙄😄

But yes, seasoned runners will run in any temperature. We might just slow down a bit. Or go out earlier to avoid the main heat of the day. Lunchtime today was fine.

EducatingArti · 18/07/2022 19:32

Ok, so a bit of physics and biology here:
Heat can be transmitted by convection, conduction and radiation. To make the house as cool as possible once the outside temp is higher than inside, you absolutely should shut windows (reduces convection transfer) and draw curtains/blinds to reduce radiative transfer on any window where sunlight shines in directly ( light energy gets absorbed by furniture walls etc and is remitted as heat energy).
Then open windows at night time when the temp drops below internal house temp to cool the house down further.
So, why does it feel cooler to have a breeze? Our bodies sweat ( all the time even when we don't feel dripping with it) and as the sweat evaporates, energy is transferred from our bodies to the surrounding air, making us cooler. Moving air makes this process more rapid so we feel the cooling effect more.
However in terms of absolute temperatures, if it is warmer outside than in and you open a window, the room temperature will increase more than if you don't. Your body may deceive you about this because of the sweat evaporation in a breeze.
If you experiment using thermometers rather than how it feels you will see this is true.
Those saying use a fan if you want a breeze rather than opening a window are correct if you want the room to stay the coolest possible.

beachcomber70 · 18/07/2022 19:33

I popped out at 4pm to the post box. In the space of about 8 minutes I saw young men both in track suit bottoms and hoodies [the warm sort of cotton material], with t shirts underneath. They also had socks and heavy trainers on.

Not judging but it made me feel even hotter just looking at them. They both wore baseball caps so that was sensible.

I also saw in the last day a local chap who always wears a beanie and a coat still wearing them exactly as he does in the winter. Yesterday saw a couple of male OAP's with jackets on as if it was an ordinary day. I just don't know how they do it. Feel for people like the recycling and bin men and firefighters in full gear.

Quornflakegirl · 18/07/2022 19:33

An adult training in 39 degrees in the hottest part of the day is different to a 9/10 year old.

Anotherselfemployedcleaner · 18/07/2022 19:46

@Jules912

I was amazed to see someone running up the hill this morning as I can't do that in normal temperatures, although it's possible they were running for a train as the station is at the top of the hill.

Was it Kate Bush? 😁

SmellyToilet · 18/07/2022 19:54

Anotherselfemployedcleaner · 18/07/2022 19:46

@Jules912

I was amazed to see someone running up the hill this morning as I can't do that in normal temperatures, although it's possible they were running for a train as the station is at the top of the hill.

Was it Kate Bush? 😁

😂😂

BroomHandledMouser · 18/07/2022 19:54

@Anotherselfemployedcleaner Brilliant

BiscuitLover3678 · 18/07/2022 19:55

Feeling for all medics who are going to have to deal with so much stupidity.
And all the children and animals that are going to suffer because of it :(

whynotwhatknot · 18/07/2022 20:10

all I've heard today is just enjoy it others countries cope. we're not other countries we don't have the right building or air conditioning thats how they cope

Stevenage689 · 18/07/2022 21:24

TheFridayRabbit · 18/07/2022 18:56

Bus, taxi, walk, wfh. Anything other than put himself into clear danger.

Walk - so he would be out in the sun longer? Bus - quite possibly similar, plus buses are sweatboxes.
WFH - could be hard if he's a nurse, teacher, waiter, etc...
taxi fair play, but not everyone can afford it

I weighed up my options for today and tomorrow and decided cycling was the safest. I would rather minimise the time I am outside. Was 37 degrees on my journey home today; sometimes people don't have options.

Lweji · 18/07/2022 21:34

People from hot countries don't run. That's why most elite runners are famously from very cold countries 🙄😄

Like Kenya and Ethiopia, whose nationals dominate the marathon best time tables?

HintofVintagePink · 18/07/2022 21:50

Mum pushing a young toddler in a pushchair on the school run. Hood right back, just a nappy on, no hat, no clothes. Poor thing looked absolutely fried.
A few children with sun hats on but very few adults. People just don’t think about it properly.

Angelinflipflops · 18/07/2022 21:54

I was out cycling today, was fine

NeverDropYourMooncup · 18/07/2022 21:57

Lweji · 18/07/2022 21:34

People from hot countries don't run. That's why most elite runners are famously from very cold countries 🙄😄

Like Kenya and Ethiopia, whose nationals dominate the marathon best time tables?

Mostly from the highlands of the Rift Valley. Somewhat cooler than 40 Celsius - nearer average temperatures of 15-19, so not that much warmer than here.

The runners also tend to be from one particular group within those countries as well, combined with having the environmental adaptations to living at around 7000ft.

Heatstrokeunsteady · 18/07/2022 22:00

We have an ageing population. After seeing an extremely unwell person today (heat related) I think it’s wise to mention to be careful.

notanothertakeaway · 18/07/2022 22:00

RingBlingThing · 18/07/2022 16:55

Not sure I agree totally with the window thing. Ours is definitely hotter inside than out if we leave them shut. It has windows on three sides and gets the sun all afternoon so it's like a greenhouse. We don't have curtains on all the window either so can't shut them all.

We never have to put the heating on in winter though!

@RingBlingThing apparently, you can spray inside of windows with water, then put kitchen foil on, to reflect heat away from the house