To not let dd go on get school trip

[Cookiecrumble22]

Dd is meant to be going to the beach tomorrow with the school by coach. I really do not want her to go. But she really wants to. I don't think its a good idea at all. She's 12 incase it's relivent.

And I am guessing you didnt see the point of lockdown "Jack" 🙄

@Cookiecrumble22

Your mind’s already made up. You’ve had a 5-page convo and some arguments and yet you’ve held on to every negative reason why your daughter shouldn’t go.
So, okay. She’s not going. Just say so and let’s all move on.
I do feel bad for your daughter, though, staying home when all her friends and classmates will be in Margate having fun. Poor kid.
Btw - it’s 43c where I live and the world hasn’t come to an end. I’d give quite a lot to live so close to the coast, though. For us it’s 3 hrs.

Note to self (and @AntiHop )

Dont argue with stupid....it drags you down to its own level and then beats you with experience.

Can you really not see the difference? When you're a kid on holiday, your parent/s are focused on you. They can keep you in the shade, make sure you drink plenty.

When kids are in school or on a school trip, they are one of many kids with a few adults.

When I was in high school in Australia, if it got above 35 (regularly in the summer) they'd often close school at lunch time and take all those who wanted to go to the local open air swimming pool.

So if it's 43c where you are now, I'm presuming that temperature isn't that unusual? That means you're physically used to it, and your body can cope better.

@Cookiecrumble22 I'd be very surprised if the school doesn't cancel. There is zero shade in Margate beach. Taking kids there tomorrow would be completely pointless.

And all the other people who are still going on about other countries not falling apart in this kind of heat, holidays abroad etc. This is not the same at all. We are not set up AT ALL in this country for this level of heat. Even people who are fit and healthy will bet sick over the next couple of days because of the heat. To deny any of this is just ridiculous.

OP, you know your child best. If you think she will really struggle, won't remember to stay hydrated or manage to tell the teacher if she's struggling in the coach or at the beach then I'd keep her at home. If she is generally sensible then I don't see why she's at any more risk than the other children going.

My DS is also 12 but has ASD and can't connect thirst/hydration with drinking water. He feels ill in the heat (sensory issues) but can't understand how drinking water would help. He won't wear a sunhat (again sensory issues) and will not deviate from uniform rules (so I will be hiding his thick PE hoodie in the morning!). They have a lot of outdoor activities planned tomorrow at his mainstream school and I'm bloody worried how this one will cope all day in the heat.

What is the logic in NOT going to the beach when it's hot? Mumsnet is crazy. Of course you should send her!!

It does not really matter if its 5 pages long . Its a discussion. There have been people saying they would still let their child go there have been some who said they would not.

The traveling by coach which probably has no air conditioning ( school coaches never seem to ) then no shade .

A beach typically has no shade so unless you've taken something with you (e.g., pop-up gazebo) then you're going to be exposed to the sun all day. Most schools won't allow children in the water for safety reasons and they're usually not allowed to wear swimsuits for the same reason so have to stay fully clothed. Add in the heat from the sand, the reflective light off the water, an adult to child ratio that means children are going to largely be responsible for their own hydration/suncream/wellbeing and the fact that school hoirs encompass the hottest portion of the day (11-3) its more or less a recipe for heat stroke. On a normal hot day I'd let my DC go with no hesitation, we live near the beach, on a day with a weather warning in place for severe heat there's no way I'd let them go bake on the sand during the hottest part of that day.

Really, does this need spelling out to you?

The best way to keep yourself safe from sunstroke is to keep out of the sun. Either in the shade, or indoors. Going to the beach is against official advice for the heatwave.

Op was also worried about the high chance of getting caught in bad traffic and being stuck for hours on a stuffy coach.

I wouldn't have gone as a child - but I'm a redhead who needs shade and a beach trip would have been my idea of hell
My mum would often pull me out of sports day as they expected us to be on the field all day again with no shade and I had heatstroke one year as they wouldn't let me go inside

If you live near the coast and like
a swim, no logic at all. You can also pop home at the hottest part of the day. If it’s a 3 hour round trip (at best) and you’re not allowed to swim, what is the logic in going?

I wouldn’t send her although my kids wouldn’t have wanted to go in this heat which obviously makes it easier. I have family in a country that has these temperatures more often and they think It crazy that people here strip off and spend more time outside than ever. The coach trip, lack of shade, lack of opportunity to cool off in the sea, it’s just a recipe for sunburn, sunstroke, dehydration, headaches, I feel sick thinking of it. 😅

@AntiHop

No. Nobody can get “used to” 110-111F degree heat. We find a pool or go to the lake or stay indoors. It’s going to be over 105 every day for the foreseeable future. We cope the best we can. We worry about our senior citizens, because their bodies cannot regulate the heat well and many get ill with heat stroke. Some die, sadly.
They also have “cooling centers” here, air conditioned places you can go to if you don’t have air conditioning. I have A/C, but it’s not working all that well because of the extreme heat. I have it set at 70, but the register reads 84. It probably won’t cool down until much later in the night.
We do suffer from hot summers, but for it to be so incredibly hot for so many days in a row is hard on everyone.

It will have a sea breeze and be much cooler than even a couple of miles in land.

all this drama is stressing me out! Can't bloody wait til there's something else for everyone to freak out about

Do these people never go abroad!

The hysterical Pearl clutching is fascinating to read!

The irony in this statement is hilarious!

Not everyone can afford to have holidays abroad!

It says everywhere that it should essential travel only and this is the first time ever that we’ve been issued extreme heat warnings.

Ignore the posters who’ll be sat in their air conditioned offices or at home barely feeling the heat.

You’re trying to do what’s best for your child and of course you’re going to worry when they’ve issued health warnings - some people are obviously just crap parents to not care about their children’s health.

I would let her go as it’s a shame to miss out and I am sure as they’re taking a coach, they’ll be able to return early if it’s unbearable.
Be prepared that some kids will be off though.

And the sky could fall in, and the coach driver might have a heart attack, and the muck-spreader may fall over, and everyone might just explode....

If the plan is that they sit out in full sun all day, with no shade, then I'd be worried. Truly mad dogs and Englishmen.....

If they have activities planned, I'd let her go.

I'm sick of all these people saying" it's not that bad, how do you cope when you go abroad? " Well, I don't go abroad because IT'S TOO HOT FOR ME!!! So, yes, these sorts of temperatures here are difficult to deal with. There will be reports of severe sunburn, heat stroke,overcrowded beaches, long traffic jams and drownings. We are being warned to stay cool and be sensible. Sitting on a beach with no shade is not sensible. Those who love the heat, crack on. Stop criticising people who don't like it and struggle when it gets to the high 20s, let alone 30s!!!

Have you ever been to a beach in very high heat? Sand / pebbles burning your feet. No shade. Possibility of having to walk quite some way from carpark to beach.

Yes you'd cool off in the water but the risk of sun stroke wouldn't be worth it.

Never mind the journey

You know there are other countries outside of Europe right? Really hot ones that also happen go be humid, if you can believe it!