To not let dd go on get school trip

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Dd is meant to be going to the beach tomorrow with the school by coach. I really do not want her to go. But she really wants to. I don't think its a good idea at all. She's 12 incase it's relivent.

Do you actually know if the school coach is awful or are you just taking the word of some random on MN?

If you are so worried check with school. They aren't stupid and will absolutely not endanger staff and children. Even if its 33c you would be fine driving there and back and its much better to be by the sea in the heat. The advice to send loads of water and freeze bottles is good. Plus a good hat and a cover up and you're set.

The beach will be quite a bit cooler than anywhere in land, the kids will have a great time and will be fine as long as they wear lots of sun cream and drink plenty of water plus they can cool off in the sea

No, vulnerable to heart attacks, asthma attacks, that sort of thing. It’s a thing. Look it up.

Our children were going to Margate last week, it got changed the day before to a nearby country park instead, much better, shaded and no long coach trip.

When enet my children have been on ciavh trips with the school they always get off the coach sweating and red faced. So do the staff . The MN poster just confirmed what I thought.

I’m baffled by the negative responses!! 11 is old enough to remember sun block and to wear a hat . In the midday heat I bet the school have a plan to go somewhere with shade . But a day playing at the beach with your friends is a lovely way to spend a day

The only thing I'd be worried about would be her safety. Are there going to be enough adults with them to properly supervise the children in the water?

Margate is due to be cooler than London so it’ll be fine! 29 degrees but usually a breeze on the coast. Send her covered in sun cream and a cap.

my Dd is off to a theme park tomorrow and I’m surprised it’s going ahead but I’ve no intention of stopping here going. There’s a splash zone so I expect her to spend all day there.

So someone without asthma is going to have an asthma attack?

A fit and healthy person, with no heart issues, who doesnt exert themselves and keeps themselves cool and in the shade is going to be at serious risk of having a heart attack?

My sons class went to the beach on Friday, he’s in year 2. They had a great time. but it’s about a 15 minute walk from school (although I imagine herding 90 excitable 7yo’s probably made it more like a 30 minute walk lol). Plus temperatures where I am are not set to go above 30 so whilst it’s pretty warm, it’s not unheard of temperatures (South Coast). Maybe grab her some of those aerosol spray water things to help her keep cool, make sure she has a couple of drinks and money to buy more and she sets alarms on her phone to replace sunscream.

I'd check with the school about the coach. The beach itself shouldn't be an issue but all coaches & buses used for schools round here are shite with no opening windows or aircon. DD was dripping in sweat when she got home last week- and that was only 10-15 mins from school to home. They break down a lot too.

They are not allowed in the water. Possibly allowed their feet in that's about it .

Do the posters on here freaking out ever travel to beach holidays abroad in August? We were in Majorca with Dd age 2.5 when it was 47 degree heatwave. People just said “yes, lots of ice please” when ordering drinks and made polite conversation about it being hot. Dd swam in the sea and slept in a pushchair we’d borrowed and we kept her in the shade.

Half of Mumsnet are going to spend the next two days thinking they are going to keel over and die

I grew up by the seaside and would have very rarely been there during midday sun so actually I wouldn’t be keen on this school trip tbh. Yes there is the breeze but there is no shade so that is why I’d think the idea of a trip in school hours is a bit dubious. When we went to the beach as a family we’d have been decked out with windbreak, parasol, deck chairs etc. the kids on a school trip are unlikely to be bringing any sort of shade with them. I also had a healthy respect of the sea. I was a strong, confident swimmer but at that age would never have gone in without my dad. It was always drummed into me to never swim alone in the sea. I still wouldn’t now as an adult. I’m not entirely convinced a school trip to the beach during a heatwave is a brilliant idea tbh.

let her go. It would be mean to make her miss out on the trip with her friends.

So much hysteria.

Yes, nice to see you have finally got it.

Extreme heat puts people with no underlying health conditions at far higher risk of breathing problems, strokes and heart attacks as the body struggles to regulate its temperature.

Medical fact.

Its why its been deemed a National Emergency. But if you think going to work is more important than a childs health, well thats on you.

Don’t be silly. Half of mumsnet will take sensible precautions. The other half live somewhere that won’t even be all that hot!

People can develop breathing problems. A seemingly healthy person can have a heart attack. Most won’t but the warnings are to make sure as many people as possible make sensible decisions and take some precautions. That’s all. The OP is trying to make an informed decision about the safety of her daughter. I’m not at all worried about the weather as I’ve lived in hot countries but there are things I wouldn’t do when it is very hot (going on a coach to a beach would probably rank right up there.)

I’m gobsmacked really at the number of people who just think ‘I’m alright, Jack’ and have no imagination or intelligence to realise that a lot of people who have health conditions or are elderly and struggle in the heat. Yes, you are probably fine but that doesn’t mean other people will be. I’m not going to get involved in any further discussion on this.

And next weeks headlines of "XX children died in the heat wave" will be met on MN with "WHY DID NO ONE STOP THIS????!!!!!"

I am not saying that children will die but surely, if its your child, you would minimize the risk?!

I work with vulnerable children. I will be going to work yes

And I asked if they were at significant risk. A higher risk than normal, does not mean that someone is at significant risk of the thing happening.

Healthy fit people are very unlikely to need to be worried about the next 2 days.

Unless of course they decide inexplicably to run a marathon, while hungover, eating crisps, wearing no sunscreen, drinking no water. At midday.

My post was specifically about people WITHOUT health conditions, so dont muddy the waters.

I have health conditions, I am at risk in the heat, but the vast majority are not and the hysteria on here is something to be behold. In fact it may even be raising people's blood pressure in itself.

Dominic Raab has ordered schools to carry on as normal. Not much they can do.

Again....National. Emergency.

I will also be going to work by the way, unless I decide my daughter would be safer at home (a house I hate in the winter but appreciate in the summer as it sheds heat).

Wow. This has to be one of the most horrible posts I've ever read on mumsnet. Someone is vulnerable so their death doesn't really count?

There are people of certain ages, with certain conditions or on certain medication that makes them more vulnerable to heat stroke. That does not mean they're "on the way out".

Anyway, as the met office has made clear, the temperatures over the next 2 days are going to be so high that anyone could be at risk of death. That's what red warning means.