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To not let dd go on get school trip

180 replies

Cookiecrumble22 · 17/07/2022 21:16

Dd is meant to be going to the beach tomorrow with the school by coach. I really do not want her to go. But she really wants to. I don't think its a good idea at all. She's 12 incase it's relivent.

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B0ssAssB1tch · 17/07/2022 22:47

Blimey. Margate's forecast is basically a normal summers day.

Don't you think you're overreacting quite a lot?

Testina · 17/07/2022 22:48

Margate has a forecast of 30° tomorrow. If it was the hottest place in the country, so no drama about records breaking etc, I bet you’d be thinking, “wow - how lucky it’s today!”

CecilyP · 17/07/2022 22:48

Do you mean the 1976 heatwave where hundreds of people died? Very naive to say we “all survived” when so many people didn’t.

The 1976 heatwave was unusual in that there was somewhere in the U.K. where the temperature reached 90F / 32C for 14 consecutive days. However for none days did it go much above about 92F / 33C.

User8394721 · 17/07/2022 22:51

Mumsnet will combust tomorrow with the heat

Livelovebehappy · 17/07/2022 22:51

I wouldn’t stress about it. Schools are very aware of health and safety, so I’m sure a text or email will be going out tomorrow to parents before school to let them know it’s cancelled. That’s if the temps are very high in the destination your dc is going to. Not all areas of the U.K. are going to see the very high temps predicted.

Bournetilly · 17/07/2022 22:51

Dont stop her from going! She wants to go and all her friends are probably going. She’s 12 so old enough to know she needs to apply suncream and drink plenty of fluids. There’s so much drama about this.

goldfinchonthelawn · 17/07/2022 22:52

It's supposed to be 31 in Margate tomorrow. I'm pretty sure that isn;t the hottest ever weather recorded in UK, and people panicking about it would be perfectly happy if their DC were abroad enjoying this weather. I would let her go. Make sure she has sun screen, sun hat and shades, lots of iced water, some salty food like crisps or tortilla chips, a fully charged phone, a hand held fan, maybe a change of clothes for if she gets wet or very sweaty. It's no different from if she was on a school trip to Rome or Greece and we don't panic about these temperatures over there.

Cookiecrumble22 · 17/07/2022 22:53

UrsulaPandress · 17/07/2022 22:37

The air is different????

What the actual fuckety fuck???

As the UK prepares for soaring temperatures, many people have questioned why British heat feels more “unbearable” than elsewhere, said Lucy Williamson on My London.

Her thoughts were echoed by a Twitter user, who wrote: “No idea why but when it is even only 25C in Britain feels a lot hotter than it does at well above 35C elsewhere.”

Humidity is one reason, explained the Met Office. The UK has a higher level of humidity than the European continent and “it is harder for the human body to keep cool as your sweat doesn’t evaporate as quickly.”

I copied and paste from Google.

I'm a not confused as to why not many people seem to understand that the air is different aboard.

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Happytap · 17/07/2022 22:53

The air is different?! I can’t get over this one.

The air is not different ‘abroad’ - how could that possibly work?

User8394721 · 17/07/2022 22:54

Humidity was lowish today, between 30 and 50

UrsulaPandress · 17/07/2022 22:55

Hmmm. So you are confusing humidity and the ‘air’

Cookiecrumble22 · 17/07/2022 22:55

Happytap · 17/07/2022 22:53

The air is different?! I can’t get over this one.

The air is not different ‘abroad’ - how could that possibly work?

Honestly the amount of people reacting in this way. Google it

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Happytap · 17/07/2022 22:55

Okay seen your update - but what about countries with high levels of humidity that also get hot? Loads of people take kids on holiday all over the world, not just continental Europe, and let them play on the beach in all sorts of weather.

sallydoodlecat · 17/07/2022 22:56

On a school trip last Monday the coach broke down. Took an hour for a replacement to be sent. Luckily it was at a service station and the teachers managed to get the kids into the shade and blagged some free water and ice cream for them. Could have been much worse.

bellac11 · 17/07/2022 22:57

Cookiecrumble22 · 17/07/2022 22:53

As the UK prepares for soaring temperatures, many people have questioned why British heat feels more “unbearable” than elsewhere, said Lucy Williamson on My London.

Her thoughts were echoed by a Twitter user, who wrote: “No idea why but when it is even only 25C in Britain feels a lot hotter than it does at well above 35C elsewhere.”

Humidity is one reason, explained the Met Office. The UK has a higher level of humidity than the European continent and “it is harder for the human body to keep cool as your sweat doesn’t evaporate as quickly.”

I copied and paste from Google.

I'm a not confused as to why not many people seem to understand that the air is different aboard.

We dont have a general level of higher humidity. What can happen is that if we have warm weather but its overcast, then its sticky yes.

However, I havent seen cloud for some time now!

Humidity today was as low as 30%, thats very low

Try going to south America or various places in Asia, areas of Italy and Spain. Thats very humid.

User8394721 · 17/07/2022 22:58

It felt very pleasant outside today as the humidity was quite low

CecilyP · 17/07/2022 22:58

But the problem is the kids won’t be allowed in the sea. To just play on the sand in blazing heat is bloody miserable.

Yeah, I am wondering what a bunch of 12 year olds will do in Margate on a boiling hot day when they’re not even allowed a swim in the sea. Sounds like a bit of a waste of a 90 minute journey.

Seasidemumma77 · 17/07/2022 22:59

My house is 2 streets away from the beach, in the South East. The temperature is far cooler on the beach than even my house/street. Our beach has been packed today with everyone enjoying the breeze coming off the sea.

Saracenia · 17/07/2022 23:00

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So that’s alright then? You are so ageist. Actually, the met has said specifically that healthy people will be vulnerable in this heat as well as those with underlying conditions (which means conditions like asthma, diabetes, etc. so not on their way out necessarily) and very young. The other thing they said was that that it would be unlikely that it would be cooler on the coast.

Hangingwithmygnomies · 17/07/2022 23:00

All of the people going on about heat abroad etc. where I live in the UK, it is due to be 40° tomorrow and Tuesday. Where my friends live in Spain is 42° and are on high alert with 100's of deaths due to their heatwave. That's a country that is used to hot weather much more than us Brits!
My Ds1 is due to go on a school residential tomorrow to another place with a forecast of 38/39° and I'll admit to being concerned about him going, but he is so looking forward to it. I've spoken to him about making sure he puts on suncream, wears a hat and drinking plenty of water. 3 hours on a coach - I hope the air con works!

User8394721 · 17/07/2022 23:00

It will probably be lovely, wish I was going, I'm in the hot bit where it said 41.

Cookiecrumble22 · 17/07/2022 23:02

Seasidemumma77 · 17/07/2022 22:59

My house is 2 streets away from the beach, in the South East. The temperature is far cooler on the beach than even my house/street. Our beach has been packed today with everyone enjoying the breeze coming off the sea.

If we were close to the beach or a short ride . That would be different. But 90 mons on a coach seems awful . Abd as another poster pointed out the school coaches are awful . The air conditioning never Seems to work . This always seems to be the case. I don't know if they use old coaches or something 🤔.

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User8394721 · 17/07/2022 23:03

Saracenia · 17/07/2022 23:00

So that’s alright then? You are so ageist. Actually, the met has said specifically that healthy people will be vulnerable in this heat as well as those with underlying conditions (which means conditions like asthma, diabetes, etc. so not on their way out necessarily) and very young. The other thing they said was that that it would be unlikely that it would be cooler on the coast.

Of course they said that as they don't want everyone piling down there like they did anyway,

bellac11 · 17/07/2022 23:06

Saracenia · 17/07/2022 23:00

So that’s alright then? You are so ageist. Actually, the met has said specifically that healthy people will be vulnerable in this heat as well as those with underlying conditions (which means conditions like asthma, diabetes, etc. so not on their way out necessarily) and very young. The other thing they said was that that it would be unlikely that it would be cooler on the coast.

Vulnerable in what way?

To heatstroke - yes if they run around in direct sunlight not taking in water or seeking shade
Sun burn - definitely

But mostly vulnerable to discomfort, feeling too hot, its not likely that fit healthy people are going to have problems that sit outside of that above just due to the heat.

Also the forecasts for the coast is about 10 degrees cooler than inland, so a huge reason to be somewhere cooler.

Mumwithbaggage · 17/07/2022 23:06

I'd say no to Margate - we were at Hythe in Kent early this morning (other end of the county but not that far away) and it was extremely hot - will be much hotter tomorrow. Normally there's quite a breeze there so I often go for a walk after work. They won't have shade. I say this as a somewhat lax mother of 4 adults/nearly adults.