Definitely reporting now - is 101 the right number?

[PinkStarAtNight]

I started a thread the other week about whether I should report neighbours to SS because of child screaming through the night, and other things like mum being drunk in pool and not looking after the small children, smoking weed etc

Just now I've heard really really loud bangs coming from next door. No idea what it was, kind of sounded like a window being bashed closed again and again or something heavy being smashed down on worktops. Then lots of screaming from mother - 'STOP! STOP NOW' This went on for a while. It was so loud it sounded like it was coming from our upstairs (it's a semi detached)

Then child screaming and crying, sounds like same child from the other night. She is the smallest one I think. A toddler.

Then their back door opened and the crying child was pushed outside, with mother screaming 'GET OUT NOW! GET OUT THERE!...ITS TOO MUCH EMI. TOO MUCH' Then she slammed the door shut. The other kids were outside on the swings. They are a bit older but still young. They were trying to comfort small crying child.

They were saying to mum through window 'mum I can't talk to her because she just keeps asking for the door to be opened'. The mum shouted back 'No!'

A few mins later mum opened door and growled 'get in here'. Child still crying. Then I heard her say to slightly older children 'right I'm going upstairs, sort her out and DO NOT let her upstairs because honest to god I've enough.'

All is quiet now, but I really do need to report now don't I? I am in hold to 101. Have been a while now. .

Is 101 the right number? Or now everything is quiet should it be NSPCC or SS?

I live at home with my mum. She has just got home and I've told her why I'm calling 101 and she says she doesn't want me to call because she doesn't want any trouble. She thinks the police will come here and we will be in trouble with the neighbours.

What should I do?

Phone ... even if you have the tiniest concern that something is wrong it's better to be safe than sorry.

My mum has just said 'what are you getting out of this? What are you getting out of blabbing on people? I don't get you. Stop poking your nose in where its not wanted. I'm going to have to hang up because she's angry. It's her house so I suppose I don't have the right to report neighbours against her will?

Phone 101. When you phone tell them you're happy to speak to officers on the phone but not to call at your house.

Definitely phone though

It's her house so I suppose I don't have the right to report neighbours against her will

Ignore her. You've got every right to phone

Fucking do it. The amount of children who could have been saved but weren't because of people "minding their own business". No. Just do it. I wouldn't hesitate.

Ring from somewhere else.

Definitely call 101. Too many people turn a blind eye to this kind of thing - these children need someone to speak up for them, they can’t do it themselves.

Report, report, report! How will you live with yourself if you don’t and something bad happens?

999 - you suspect the children are being abused right now/currently in danger. This is the advice of every child protection training I’ve been on.

If ring 999 personally.

Tbh I’d dial 999.

Call 999, tell them you have concerns and that they need to do a Police Welfare Check and not to mention who reported it (they probably won't mention it anyway).

Next time record it too, I'm glad you have got more decency and care for those children than your mother has.

If you ever hear banging and screaming like that call 999 at the time it’s happening.

The other stuff google your local council and social services and the details will be on there.

Has your mum not ever heard it then?

999 call handlers will definatly understand your concerns which are for the welfare of vulnerable children, one of which is still a toddler who you assume is being abused by their mother who is a drug user.

The authorities MUST be made aware of this situation asap as the longer it goes on, the more these kids are being neglected.

Just dial 999 before its too late.

Call now

That poor child has no choice but to live there

You can help

Gone are the days of minding your own business op.
Child abuse is for everyone to report...

call 999

I'm a police officer and I'd expect this to be a 999 call.

You must must must report this OP. It’s when people ignore these sort of signs that tragedies happen. God only knows what’s happening to that poor toddler and there’s no one to advocate for them. I would be calling social services as well as the police. I would call the police first so that I could provide social services with the reference number. Your mother sounds callous

Oh and I agree with above posters, this should be a 999 call

I know this may go against every single person here, but I think I would knock on the door and ask if she is ok. I really think I would do that it if it was me, because I think the mum's reaction would help me decide if this woman is in need of support or she doesn't care.
Maybe that's just not realistic, or she's never friendly or you just think fuck that! You'll do what you decide anyway, but I think after all you have mentioned, you know there is something wrong and it's really good of you to care.

@AhaLyn she heard the child screaming and crying in the night, the other week. She must hear the mum shouting at the kids. But she was out today when the banging and being locked outside was happening so I just described it. She got mad straight away and said 'no no no I'm don't want the police round here, I don't want any trouble. Just keep your nose out'. She said its none of our business and sort of implied I was getting some sort of sick pleasure out of reporting, as she said 'what are you getting out of this? What are you getting out of blabbing on people?' Like I was doing it for fun!
I'm doing it because its horrible to hear that tiny child crying so hysterically. She sounds so distressed.

We were planning to have a bbq for dinner tonight and she said by calling the police I would ruin it. She was so mad I had to hang up.

I'm going to have to report it another time now, when she's out.

999 don’t take any chances. They won’t mind if they turn up and it’s not an emergency, they would rather you rang.

From today I really don’t see what your issue is? Sounds to me like the child did something incredibly naughty and mum was at the end of her tether with her so gave her a rollicking and put her outside with older siblings whilst mum calmed down inside and maybe sorted out whatever the child had been up to, then when she kept asking to come back inside she let her back in and took herself off upstairs (again leaving her safely with older siblings not alone) as she was still cross and wanted a time out ?! Literally a mum just doing her best whilst parenting a challenging child