Definitely reporting now - is 101 the right number?

[PinkStarAtNight]

I started a thread the other week about whether I should report neighbours to SS because of child screaming through the night, and other things like mum being drunk in pool and not looking after the small children, smoking weed etc

Just now I've heard really really loud bangs coming from next door. No idea what it was, kind of sounded like a window being bashed closed again and again or something heavy being smashed down on worktops. Then lots of screaming from mother - 'STOP! STOP NOW' This went on for a while. It was so loud it sounded like it was coming from our upstairs (it's a semi detached)

Then child screaming and crying, sounds like same child from the other night. She is the smallest one I think. A toddler.

Then their back door opened and the crying child was pushed outside, with mother screaming 'GET OUT NOW! GET OUT THERE!...ITS TOO MUCH EMI. TOO MUCH' Then she slammed the door shut. The other kids were outside on the swings. They are a bit older but still young. They were trying to comfort small crying child.

They were saying to mum through window 'mum I can't talk to her because she just keeps asking for the door to be opened'. The mum shouted back 'No!'

A few mins later mum opened door and growled 'get in here'. Child still crying. Then I heard her say to slightly older children 'right I'm going upstairs, sort her out and DO NOT let her upstairs because honest to god I've enough.'

All is quiet now, but I really do need to report now don't I? I am in hold to 101. Have been a while now. .

Is 101 the right number? Or now everything is quiet should it be NSPCC or SS?

I live at home with my mum. She has just got home and I've told her why I'm calling 101 and she says she doesn't want me to call because she doesn't want any trouble. She thinks the police will come here and we will be in trouble with the neighbours.

What should I do?

I hope you phoned the police.

You think a child is being abused and you hung up because your mum wants a nice BBQ? Don't be one of those people who waits until it's too late to say something.

What would your mum do if you phoned the police?

Well it's not hypocrisy. SW will now make that mothers life hell from here ....

Goodness me. My dd puts on a fantastic performance at least twice a day (teeth brushing is the minimum) I'm amazed that nobody has ever knocked the door to be honest! On bad day she will scream "no, no, mummy please no" at the top of her voice whilst kicking blue murder out of the cabinets. Sometimes this will be over teeth, other times a wash or because she's got the hump. She will slam doors and she stomps.... Our house echos. It sounds awful! She obviously gets told off for this and sometimes if we have had performances like this over EVERYTHING for a day I have to have a 5 min time out!

Obviously, if people were concerned I'd far rather they called 101 than ignored as I have nothing to hide at all however sometimes things really aren't how they sound!!

Report to Social services and you can do so anonymously. I did once because my next door neighbour was so verbally abusive to her very young child. I couldn’t stand it. I might be that she needs more support.

WTF? If you think a crime is being committed, or you have concerns about a child, then of course you don’t need your landlords permission to contact the police.

You hung up because mummy told you off?!

You can report online and be connected with a live chat handler immediately, I reported a welfare check on a girl I saw on a bridge the other night and they sent a patrol car out within 5 minutes of answering my chat.

The real concern is you have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. It could be abuse or it could be a poor mum at the end of the tether. Either way they need help and support. Screw your mum, grow up and make the call or stop posting about it for attentions

Sweet fucking Jesus.

How can you hear children being abused and not dial 999?

Jesus Christ... a child is being abused by their parent, at risk of serious harm, and you're not reporting because you don't want to annoy your mum? Beggars belief.

Well it's not hypocrisy. SW will now make that mothers life hell from here ....

Why would you make that statement?

SS child protection is to do their job to protect children.

Often the best way to do that is to support parents to be better parents.

Either way, from what's been posted, someone needs to intervene to assess this child's welfare.

Why not phone and don't tell your mum? It would take two minutes. Tell her you're going to the toilet. Honestly, the number of child protection training sessions I've been on where a child has been killed by their carers and you wonder why people around them didn't do more.
It might be nothing but I'd let the police decide.

Just go on a “walk” to somewhere local like a few roads down and call 999.
ANYTHING can happen in minutes and the trauma last for a lifetime.

older generation are of the “keep your nose in your business” type and dirty laundry in the family.
I don’t stand for that BS.

Well it's not hypocrisy. SW will now make that mothers life hell from here ....

Let's hope so. Maybe the mother can learn some better parenting skills.

I am going to say report her. I say this because I am so so shocked and maybe a little disgusted that nobody has reported us! We are not abusive however my youngest is screams so so loud. When she is having her toe nails cut she has to hold her teddy and me (in a head lock) then DP cute her toe nails. The screams are awful and makes me cry. I used to be so scared we would be reported as she scream 'daddy you're hurting me stop it please'
Now I am disgusted because I would have had to report it if I heard that. We have had my teenager record it just in case we do get reported. But nobody has. It doesn't hurt her, she is the same when she has her hair cut.
So OP, no you are not interfering, you need to report it, what you have heard the mother say is disgusting and definitely reportable

I'm with you here. My neighbours would be on the phone to the police everyday with the amount of shouting, doors slamming going on here. My children certainly aren't being abused! My 3 year old screams his head off for fun!

We don't know that a child is being abused, but it could be something, so with reporting, it sounds like the child was being challenging and the mum delt with the situation badly, but needed time to herself to calm down,
I'd report online, or phone 101 with my concerns, but if you say what you said above they're unlikely to think the child's in imminent danger.

OP, either this child (or children) is in serious danger or the mum is having a mental health crisis. It could even be both.

You HAVE to report this. Now. Tonight.

Over the last couple of years, I've seen the names and photos many young children in the news who've been killed or very seriously injured at the hands of those who are supposed to love and protect them. Some of these children and families were known to social services, and in some instances, alarms were raised a number of times by others and yet these children were failed.

Don't be the person who stands by and does nothing. Don't have this little one potentially in danger and you've had this information, stood by and not acted. If there's nothing to worry about in terms of welfare or safeguarding, then that's a professional's judgement to make and not yours. Report EVERYTHING, every time. I'm sure you do not want to see your neighbour's child's face on national news - that thought should keep you awake at night. If the mum needs help and support then that will be put in place.

Just make the call, please, and if you're still worried about your mum's reaction, report online and don't tell her. You can even search for your local police force on social media and send them a private message with details. They are usually quick to reply.

Do it. Now.

This was so triggering to read OP. Poor little child . I hope you help them get the help they need.

In the OP's previous thread (sorry don't know how to link) drink and drugs are also in the picture and mistreating the family dog

I am so glad I am not the only one who has a daughter who makes is sound awful!
Ooh teeth brushing issue was when we first moved in, my next door neighbour was so lovely about it. We told him we brush her teeth as late as possible so she doesn't wake them up. He said he gathered she didn't like her teeth brushed then put his hand on my shoulder and said 'she might drive you nuts and scream blue murder but the sound of her playing in the garden with her sisters shows how happy she really is, so if she screams and makes you feel awful for 5 mins a day, just remember how happy she is the 23 hours and 55 mins the rest of day'
The first day she brushed without screaming he came round with a pack of sweets for her that his wife sent him round as he noticed she was good that day too.

Please do report. What's in it for you from your mum is a frankly heartless comment. Should smt be beneficial to someone for doing the right thing? Potentially saving an innocent child should be enough in itself? Trust your instincts op. I'd definitely 100% ring. You get a crime report number, do ask for updates. Don't let it go. You read the news, remember Arthur, Star, Daniel, Logan. Please call.

The thing with people saying their child has tantrums etc. the issue in OP's post isn't the children, it's the parents behaviour! Continuing to shout at them, putting them outside, telling the older children (no idea how old...) to look after them and isn't this all for a toddler?!