Definitely reporting now - is 101 the right number?

[PinkStarAtNight]

I started a thread the other week about whether I should report neighbours to SS because of child screaming through the night, and other things like mum being drunk in pool and not looking after the small children, smoking weed etc

Just now I've heard really really loud bangs coming from next door. No idea what it was, kind of sounded like a window being bashed closed again and again or something heavy being smashed down on worktops. Then lots of screaming from mother - 'STOP! STOP NOW' This went on for a while. It was so loud it sounded like it was coming from our upstairs (it's a semi detached)

Then child screaming and crying, sounds like same child from the other night. She is the smallest one I think. A toddler.

Then their back door opened and the crying child was pushed outside, with mother screaming 'GET OUT NOW! GET OUT THERE!...ITS TOO MUCH EMI. TOO MUCH' Then she slammed the door shut. The other kids were outside on the swings. They are a bit older but still young. They were trying to comfort small crying child.

They were saying to mum through window 'mum I can't talk to her because she just keeps asking for the door to be opened'. The mum shouted back 'No!'

A few mins later mum opened door and growled 'get in here'. Child still crying. Then I heard her say to slightly older children 'right I'm going upstairs, sort her out and DO NOT let her upstairs because honest to god I've enough.'

All is quiet now, but I really do need to report now don't I? I am in hold to 101. Have been a while now. .

Is 101 the right number? Or now everything is quiet should it be NSPCC or SS?

I live at home with my mum. She has just got home and I've told her why I'm calling 101 and she says she doesn't want me to call because she doesn't want any trouble. She thinks the police will come here and we will be in trouble with the neighbours.

What should I do?

Christ is this still going on?! It's a no brainer op, I don't understand what's the issue giving 999 a call! You've nothing to lose and a child has everything to lose. Ffs...

This is a load of rubbish. SocialWorkers can visit privately owned/rented and council properties. Safeguarding issues or concerns should be reported to children’s social services duty officer or your local MASH (Multi Agency Safeguarding Hub). The MASH includes social services, police and other organisations. It can be used for adult and child safeguarding including Domestic Violence. If you think/know a crime is taking place or the someone is in immediate danger than call 999

Only somebody talking utter bollocks would claim that social workers only get involved with families living in social housing.

What an utter pile of bollocks. SS involvement has nothing at all to do with the type of property you live in. They have the right to turn up unannounced to any propery they want but they are not able to force entry. If they thought this waa necessary they'd involve the police. They would take a very dim view of anyone who didn't allow them access to the children's living environment as well and this would be more likely to escalate their involvement. Again none of this has anything to do with what type of property a child is living at and it should always be ss contacted if you're worried about a child. People are complicating this when it doesn't need to be. It's a single referral process to a single department and it's supposedly this way to avpid confusion but clearly it isn't working...

I've heard worse than this. Made urgent referral to ss. Police went out that evening didn't even look at kids in bed and no further action

They are a waste of time make me angry

@McClaire

Not council unless a council property and they would then contact the social services themselves as the social services are a council department. The social services are not operating legally if they put in an appearance on someone that is private owned.

Why would you state this so confidently when it's simply not true?!

They can visit any residence. You can refuse them entry and they'll need to get a court order to return but it's completely false to say that social services don't visit private residences.

Yea it’s beginning to annoy me how people aren’t checking their facts but seem happy to dish out false info that if listened to could deter someone from reporting a safeguarding concern. Why do people do this?

Sounds like she might have bi polar. They can be totally calm and in control one minute and manic and lose control the next.

Bipolar is so much more than this and whatever is going on with her her kids deserve happy and safe childhood. If their environment is significantly failing in this then ss need to know and safeguard the child. Nothing else needs to complicate the equation

That's complete bollocks. Bipolar mood swings happen over days and weeks, not minutes.