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Definitely reporting now - is 101 the right number?

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PinkStarAtNight · 16/07/2022 19:56

I started a thread the other week about whether I should report neighbours to SS because of child screaming through the night, and other things like mum being drunk in pool and not looking after the small children, smoking weed etc

Just now I've heard really really loud bangs coming from next door. No idea what it was, kind of sounded like a window being bashed closed again and again or something heavy being smashed down on worktops. Then lots of screaming from mother - 'STOP! STOP NOW' This went on for a while. It was so loud it sounded like it was coming from our upstairs (it's a semi detached)

Then child screaming and crying, sounds like same child from the other night. She is the smallest one I think. A toddler.

Then their back door opened and the crying child was pushed outside, with mother screaming 'GET OUT NOW! GET OUT THERE!...ITS TOO MUCH EMI. TOO MUCH' Then she slammed the door shut. The other kids were outside on the swings. They are a bit older but still young. They were trying to comfort small crying child.

They were saying to mum through window 'mum I can't talk to her because she just keeps asking for the door to be opened'. The mum shouted back 'No!'

A few mins later mum opened door and growled 'get in here'. Child still crying. Then I heard her say to slightly older children 'right I'm going upstairs, sort her out and DO NOT let her upstairs because honest to god I've enough.'

All is quiet now, but I really do need to report now don't I? I am in hold to 101. Have been a while now. .

Is 101 the right number? Or now everything is quiet should it be NSPCC or SS?

I live at home with my mum. She has just got home and I've told her why I'm calling 101 and she says she doesn't want me to call because she doesn't want any trouble. She thinks the police will come here and we will be in trouble with the neighbours.

What should I do?

OP posts:
DelilahBucket · 16/07/2022 20:54

Please tell me you haven't hung up. Those poor kids need you. I would never forgive myself if I knew children were being treated like this and I ignored it. I did an about turn on Thursday night because I thought a teen girl was having problems with a lad and I wanted to go back and check if they were messing or she was genuinely distressed. They were just messing, but I couldn't turn a blind eye just in case someone thought I should keep my nose out.

Mememene · 16/07/2022 20:55

biscuiteer · 16/07/2022 20:47

I know this may go against every single person here, but I think I would knock on the door and ask if she is ok. I really think I would do that it if it was me, because I think the mum's reaction would help me decide if this woman is in need of support or she doesn't care.
Maybe that's just not realistic, or she's never friendly or you just think fuck that! You'll do what you decide anyway, but I think after all you have mentioned, you know there is something wrong and it's really good of you to care.

The mother smokes week, not sure if booze was also mentioned. But I wouldn't knock a door in a highly charged situation where drugs are involved.

You are braver than me, it could really kick off, and this young person doesn't have the support of her mother who is telling her to stay out of it.

AhaLyn · 16/07/2022 20:58

@PinkStarAtNight Hasn’t your mum been worried by any of it if she’s heard screaming etc at night? Could you maybe explain to the 999 handler that you’re worried about them being your neighbours etc I’m sure they’ve had that before.

SeenYourArse · 16/07/2022 21:01

Also to add my children are screamers, my youngest has learnt it from my eldest who has mild Aspergers and his first response to any form of answer her doesn’t like or if he knows he’s been caught doing a ‘naughty’ thing he will just instantly let out blood curdling ear splitting screams that go on and on. We aren’t doing anything other than saying things he doesn’t want to hear yet he makes the racket. Some kids are just like that, if you aren’t a parent you cannot know the struggle even if the child is NT.

VainAbigail · 16/07/2022 21:04

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Micemice · 16/07/2022 21:06

Send me the address in my mail box and il report it. I’m honestly so shocked that you are not reporting this , despite what your mother says etc.

DuckBilledPlattyJoobs · 16/07/2022 21:09

Mememene · 16/07/2022 20:07

Call 999, tell them you have concerns and that they need to do a Police Welfare Check and not to mention who reported it (they probably won't mention it anyway).

Next time record it too, I'm glad you have got more decency and care for those children than your mother has.

This
Shame on your Mother.

HelloAllll · 16/07/2022 21:09

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100% this. Op, if anything happens to that child you will also be partly to blame. That poor child probably has no one to speak out on theor behalf, you and your mum have the chance to save them kids and instead you have chosen the easy route out

f0stercarer · 16/07/2022 21:11

Safeguarding of children is everyone's responsibility. If you dont report it you are complicit.

You are just reporting what you have heard. You are not saying the kids should be taken away you are, quite rightly, expressing concern for their well being and putting it in the hands of people better qualified to make decisions.

The fact that you mother said "what are you getting out of it ?" is just appalling.

Maybe what you get out of it is that you get to sleep at night knowing that you did the right thing by those children.

declutteringmymind · 16/07/2022 21:11

I'd report it if a dog was treated that way let alone a child.

QuestionableMouse · 16/07/2022 21:12

Honestly op go to the bathroom or your bedroom and get back on the phone.

A welfare check isn't out of place and it might get the family the help they need.

Comefromaway · 16/07/2022 21:12

I agree with others. This is a 999 situation, not 101

Widgets · 16/07/2022 21:12

I think a knock on the door from a police officer or social worker is needed to check everything is ok and to speak to the mum about her parenting and the welfare of her children.
This can be done by yourself, anonymously via nspcc / local council emergency duty team / social services or the police. They all work together for a multi agency approach and share information so please call one of them.
Also write down the dates / times you have heard or witnessed things to keep a record, this can be cross referenced with any injuries or reports from school etc.. this family might already be known to childrens services and your call could be vital.
let’s hope she doesn’t chuck the kids out over the next few days during the scorching hot weather and refuse to open the door! Doesn’t bare thinking about!

Greenrogue · 16/07/2022 21:12

OP please see reason and call them back

eyeblob · 16/07/2022 21:13

You can report online if you can't phone

Soontobe60 · 16/07/2022 21:13

PinkStarAtNight · 16/07/2022 20:52

@AhaLyn she heard the child screaming and crying in the night, the other week. She must hear the mum shouting at the kids. But she was out today when the banging and being locked outside was happening so I just described it. She got mad straight away and said 'no no no I'm don't want the police round here, I don't want any trouble. Just keep your nose out'. She said its none of our business and sort of implied I was getting some sort of sick pleasure out of reporting, as she said 'what are you getting out of this? What are you getting out of blabbing on people?' Like I was doing it for fun!
I'm doing it because its horrible to hear that tiny child crying so hysterically. She sounds so distressed.

We were planning to have a bbq for dinner tonight and she said by calling the police I would ruin it. She was so mad I had to hang up.

I'm going to have to report it another time now, when she's out.

In the meantime these children are being abused. Call now.

PaterPower · 16/07/2022 21:14

You can log it via the website for your local force if phoning 101 or 999 is going to cause aggro with your Mum.

They do pick up the reports and will investigate.

Ivegottagoforaliedown · 16/07/2022 21:14

You need to call 999.

TuftyMarmoset · 16/07/2022 21:14

I agree that you should call (should have called) 999. Your mum is ridiculous.

Micemice · 16/07/2022 21:16

www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/reporting-abuse/report/
Link on reporting online

OCDmama · 16/07/2022 21:17

Grow a spine, stop fannying about. There are children here that desperately need help. Either pull your finger out or stop posting. You've had your answer, it's unanimous. FFS, call the police and SS.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 16/07/2022 21:18

SeenYourArse · 16/07/2022 20:54

From today I really don’t see what your issue is? Sounds to me like the child did something incredibly naughty and mum was at the end of her tether with her so gave her a rollicking and put her outside with older siblings whilst mum calmed down inside and maybe sorted out whatever the child had been up to, then when she kept asking to come back inside she let her back in and took herself off upstairs (again leaving her safely with older siblings not alone) as she was still cross and wanted a time out ?! Literally a mum just doing her best whilst parenting a challenging child

Agree with this. Sounds like tempers were fraying and mum removed herself from the situation.

Songoftheseas · 16/07/2022 21:19

SeenYourArse · 16/07/2022 20:54

From today I really don’t see what your issue is? Sounds to me like the child did something incredibly naughty and mum was at the end of her tether with her so gave her a rollicking and put her outside with older siblings whilst mum calmed down inside and maybe sorted out whatever the child had been up to, then when she kept asking to come back inside she let her back in and took herself off upstairs (again leaving her safely with older siblings not alone) as she was still cross and wanted a time out ?! Literally a mum just doing her best whilst parenting a challenging child

This is how I read it too. Some kids are just super challenging. Much better to put the child outside temporarily with older siblings while the mum calms down.

Hercisback · 16/07/2022 21:19

Call 999

Takingthepmaybe · 16/07/2022 21:19

I would struggle to not go around and look after the children to be honest - which would
not be helpful!

DEFINITELY call the police. Poor kids.